Some Questions On the Montana GOP’s Militia Proposal

Tim Ravndal kindly shared with the rest of the world last night the real meaning of Wendy Warburton’s  (R-Havre)  HB 278.

Why do we need a militia?  What’s wrong with the Montana National Guard?  Does Warburton have a personal hatred of the Havre outpost?

The conspiracy theory crowd believe that President Obama has activated a “private army” and that the law authorizing this was “hidden in the Health Care Bill,” is this why Warburton is bringing the bill forward?

Is this because our President is a black man?  What IS the deal with all the ties between Montana militia groups and white supremacists?


46 Comments on "Some Questions On the Montana GOP’s Militia Proposal"

  1. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 4, 2011 8:22 AM at 8:22 AM |

    Oooo boy! It’s gettin’ nuckin’ futty! Maybe jonny trochman will declare himself dicktater! And ms. wharpburpin’ will be his queen! Queen Wendy. We NEED us some royalty! And tiny tim ravdope will be his general! I’m luvin’ this stuff! I think that G-O-D tol wendy all this when He last spoke to her!

  2. Amendment II

    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

    Notice the words “A WELL REGULATED MILITIA” I don’t think that crazy off the wall gay hating racist bigots that have made actual threats against peoples lives is considered being a “A WELL REGULATED MILITIA”

    Maybe i’m wrong you tell me?

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 4, 2011 6:07 PM at 6:07 PM |

      Yeah, you got THAT right! A bunch of inbreds from Michigan runnin’ around with their bald heads and potbellies hangin’ out REALLY makes me feel safer! You’re a laffer, Mikey. A big joke.

  3. If I could ask Wendy Warburton a question, it would be why do we need a Montana Home Guard. I know for a fact in her hometown of Havre, they have the U.S. Border Patrol, Montana Highway Patrol, Montana Fish, Wildlife, and Parks, Montana Department of Livestock, Montana Highway Patrol, Hill County Sheriff’s Department, Havre City Police Department, and God only knows what else for law enforcement agencies. We have the second amendment and don’t worry the government will not be taking your guns. Hell there are too many guns in America for the government to control guns. I think the statistic in Montana alone is 1 out of every 4 houses has a gun in it. And in my neighborhood I’d bet that number is 3 out of every 4 houses has a gun or several in it. Including myself. So I still don’t see the need for the home gaurd. Or a milita, I don’t think the Canadians are going to invade us, unless you count an oil pipeline or some bad weather, or all them dam Canadians at the Wal-Mart store in Havre and Great Falls. I don’t believe that Muslim terrorists are going to target Montana. After all they would be found in seconds. So I don’t see the need here. Next

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 4, 2011 6:39 PM at 6:39 PM |

      Farmboy, you need to talk to G-O-D more often, jus like wendy warpburpin’. Then you’d understand. G-O-D tol’ wendy that Montana must have a mlisha, so that’s what she done. I do believe that she may be the freakin’ DUMBEST person we have ever sent to the Lege. She’s in a league of her own! She makes judy MARS look like Einstein! And that’s just real sad. But ya know, when ya live out in the boondocks with no civilization around you, a person can invent a really, really wierd reality. That’s our wendy warpburpin’! She’s wierd! If she ain’t already married, she otter get together with Tim Ravdope! Wouldn’t THAT be some offspring?!!

  4. Whatcha mean “damn Canadians at Walmart.”
    We like Montana folks, ‘cept the ones from Michigan.

  5. If this was truly about being ready for an emergency these loonies tunes could join a local volunteer fire department, QRU or EMT org, sheriff’s reserve, search and rescue or CERT. How many news articles and TV reports talk about shortages of volunteers for groups like these? The Guard, even during the height of Iraq, with large numbers deployed were able to supply helicopter air support for a 6000 acre fire that we had. Can anyone give me a legitimate situation in which these wannabe Rambos would be needed. They need to quit replaying Red Dawn and thinking that its the Feds coming not the Russians. Wolverines!

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 5, 2011 9:46 AM at 9:46 AM |

      Pretty sad that one asshole from East Overshoe, Montana can embarrass the entire state at the national level! Wendy’s an embarrassing idiot! Ya just gotta wonder how STUPID a person has to be to fall for the sh*t Wendy falls for. She definitely slipped through the cracks of the educational system. Must’a been homeschooled! Next up will probably be the Letterman show! Good job, wendy!

    • Great find Lynn. Thanks so much for posting. We are already starting to become a national joke, thanks to these nut bills.

  6. @ Larry;
    Hey did Ravndal ever actually serve in the military, do you know?

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 7, 2011 6:14 AM at 6:14 AM |

      I seriously doubt it. As you well know, even the military has intelligence requirments. I’m thinkin’ that Tin Timmy Ravdope has probably commissioned HIMSELF in the First Montana Inbred Irregulars, sorta like them southern racistsd who used to give each other honorary titles. I’m thinkin’ the Tiny Tim is Col. Tim Ravdope of the First Irregulars. He probably requires his pals to address him as Col. Tim! Wouldn’t suprise me. BTW, if Tiny Tim and Wendy Warpburpin’ get’ta form THEIR own mlisha, does that mean that I get to form MY own mlisha too? Ooo boy! What fun! Things could get REAL crazy out there!

  7. One of the reasons that a “Homeguard” makes sense is that the Feds cannot call them away-leaving Montana without it’s own defense.

    The Montana National Guard gets called upon-like all state guard units-to serve in Iraq and Afganistan

    Everyone on this site seems to think that the local authorities would be sufficient for any crisis, but they have limited numbes and different training.

    As always hope for the best-expect the worst.
    Which is why I have firearms.

    Care to answer that one Larry? In English-without insults or profanity please…..

  8. The Home Guard will be trained as a disaster response reserve, totally under the control of the State Governor and prohibited from forced deployment outside the State of Montana. The Home Guard will be trained in logistics, communications, security, and search and rescue. They do not need to be trained and equipped to fight battles or conquer nations. The Home Guard will provide to the Governor and Emergency Management Personnel a volunteer organization, vetted, trained, organized and equipped to perform limited missions. This will also provide a venue for citizens to volunteer their services within their community and the state in a regulated, controlled, organized manner without disrupting their daily lives and no possibility of deployment. Professionals, albeit, Doctors, Lawyers, Chaplains, Engineers and Craftsmen that could otherwise not be able to be a part of such an organization whether it is for age, commitments or the possibility of leaving their professions for extended lengths of time, will be able to volunteer for the Home Guard. This has been proven time and time again from other State Defense Forces around the nation.

  9. The modern National Guard has a dual mission, a provision of the U.S. Constitution and the U.S. Code of laws, results in each Soldier holding membership in both the Montana National Guard and in the U.S. Army or the U.S. Air Force. Our service members are being sent half a world away to fulfill their Federal title 10 missions. Though it will be said that only 50% can be deployed at any given time, but that can not be guaranteed, but even if it is true, the Home Guard can be there to support the 50% that will stay behind. When that 50% is at annual training or TDY’d to another State, The Home Guard will be here to support those remaining.

  10. This has nothing to do with arming the Home Guard. Please read H.B. 278 (Montana) before you flame out. The major counties in Montana have lost there Civilian Emergency Response Teams (CERT), the Red Cross and Search and Rescue Teams. Our emergency preparedness plans have been left with no way to man up for emergencies. Therefore, the need for Home Guard. It has nothing to do with Armed Militias… READ THE BILL!!! Montana has one of the largest land masses with limited population, wild fires, floods and other natural disasters will and have quickly overcome our re-sources to respond.

    House Bill 278 does not imply that Montana will have a Home Guard, but it does help to clarify the role of the Home Guard if the need should arise, it will give the Governor the tools he needs if the Home Guard is to be established and it gives community organizers the guidelines they need to establish companies within their communities.

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 7, 2011 7:07 PM at 7:07 PM |

      Homeguard…BWAHAHHAHAAA! Warpburpin’, as are you two morons, is an IDIOT! Everyone pretty much knows that, even the righties out there. If you want to play army, JOIN the frickin’ army, dudes! You see, what you two dufi (plural of dufus I assume) think is that this idea will get any traction at all. It won’t, and wendy warpurpin’ is a moron! But please, since you two reetards showe up here, PUHHLEASE present a scenario in which our CURRENT authorities could not handle the crisis. Look, we KNOW what you reetards are, anti-fed DOUCHEBAGS! Am I right or what? Where you inbreds from??

      • And I am a veteran, Moron. Navy and Army so piss off.

        • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 7, 2011 11:20 PM at 11:20 PM |

          See a lotta action in the galley, didja, dufus? Got PTSD from all them dirty dishes??? But seriously, can you see your toes? You see, in order to be considered for Wendy Warpburpin’s militia, you have to meet her standard. Thas right. YOU dinks want to see Obama’s birth certificate, but to be in Wendy’s militia, you must not be able to see your toes! Fat is beautiful! Can you see your toes, tubby? Wendy’s warriors are NOT exactly the best and the brightest, but the fattest and the stupidest! I’m thinkin’ you qualify. Am I right or what? Sheesh. You’re a funny little fella.

          • I can show you if you want. You should watch what tripe flows from your hole.

            • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 16, 2011 6:26 AM at 6:26 AM |

              Sorry, jonny, but I don’t take orders from a militia dufus! Never have, never will. SO, I suggest that you don’t READ the tripe! Problem solved! There, that was easy now, wasn’t it?

              You see, you’re arrogance and stupidity apparently knows no bounds. Militia proposals and their advocates (such as you) are laughable. That’s why you folks are being laughed at. Don’t blame ME, jonny boy! Hey, if I make a complete ass of myself, I don’t go all victim like YOU little whiners!

              Oh, and jon jon, who ISN’T a veteran? Veteran status means nothing to me. It in NO way makes you any less laughable a character. Get it? Now, run along and play army with yourself!

              • [Comment removed.]Comments that appear to be personal threats will be deleted, without apology. -Cowgirl

                • Sorry Cowgirl,No threats, would like to discuss the personnel accusations.

                • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 16, 2011 10:05 PM at 10:05 PM |

                  Can’t argue that, dude! On this we agree. You truly are sorry. BTW, did you REALLY threaten me? Too funny. I missed that one before it got deleted. Mind if I laugh anway?

                  • There were no threats, I only offered to meet with you to discuss things that seem to be bothering you.

                  • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 17, 2011 6:29 AM at 6:29 AM |

                    You’re gonna “meet” with everyone who thinks that these proposals are insane? Wow! Just wow! You really ARE deluded, lil’ dude! Yippers, you’re one deluded lil’ dude! Better bring a lunch, ’cause it LOOKS like that might take all day!

        • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 7, 2011 11:31 PM at 11:31 PM |

          “and it gives community organizers the guidelines they need to establish companies within their communities.”

          Commumity Organizers?????????????? You mean like OBAMA???? What the hell ARE you, dufus? A Muslim-loving terrorist? You really are a funny little dude.

  11. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 7, 2011 7:28 PM at 7:28 PM |

    Once again, just WHERE are the newspapers in Montana? Why are they not condemning this nonsense? How bout it, moseman, adams, any of you OTHER wussy editors and reporters? You bastards are complicit now. Do your damn jobs ferchrissakes!

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 8, 2011 7:07 AM at 7:07 AM |

      Wow! aNOTHER hard hitting editorial in the GF Spitoon this a.m. about, you guessed it, SNOW! Entitled, “snow, wonderful snow”! As the nuts attempt to take Montana straight into some sort of bizarre, christo-fundiwackmentalist fascism, the Spitoon editorializes about snow! I don’t get it.

      Look, if someone is an asshole, and they try to legitamize, legalize, and instituionalize their assholery through state laws, ISN’T that a germane topic for an editorial, either for or against? But snow??? Is THIS really what corporate pays these dufus editors for? Wow! Good work if you can get it!

      And new rule. For the legislators. Look, if you’re going to be an asshole, DON’T be offended when someone CALLS you an asshole, and then try to play the victim! There is no polite way to put it sometimes. ONLY a complete asshole would introduce a militia bill into the Montana legislature! Assholery is NOT legislation! It’s what you Marbutters do in your spare time when you’re not masturbating about overthrowing the goverment and getting rid of the black dude! So get over it.

      Oh, and one other thing. Beat your bible’s in the privacy of your home! We DON’T want to see you auto-eroticate yourself in public! It’s embarrassing, wendy!

  12. I am from Havre and am getting tired of being ambarrassed by warburton. She also wants to have loaded guns in her locked car so she can defend herself from goons(she testified with two at her side) that might be in the parking lot on her way to her locked up guns. Whew

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 9, 2011 3:53 PM at 3:53 PM |

      The woman is simply nuckin’ FUTS! Let’s take her bill to it’s logical conclusion, shall we? Say that we accidentally elect a moronic imbecile to the governorship. (ie. judy mars) And the guv starts granting and appointing all these various militia groups their Hometard status. Next thing you know, you’ve got COMPETING wackos running around the state with their OWN infantries! “Protecting” us! Sound scary? It is!

      So, I’ve come up with some possible outcomes, a list of wackos and their militia armies. You see, these dudes are in an alternate reality! Although they’re fat, lazy, outta shape, retarded inbreds, they THINK that they’re the next incarnation of Rodger’s Rangers or Merrill’s Marauders!

      So, let’s say Cleve Loney, Derek Skeester, Spearchucker Hinkle, Gary Marbutt, Dopey Reeburp, and Wendy Warpburpin’ ALL apply for a permit for their militia armies! Holy crap! What fun THAT could be! Competing militias running around the state shootin’ things up! Actually, it sounds like it might be kinda fun!

      But anyway, below I’ve offered up some suggestions for names for the new militia armies. Feel free to add you own! IT’s fun, it’s easy, and it’s free!

      Hinkle’s Dinkles!
      Loney’s Loonies!
      Marbutt’s ButtlickerSS!
      Wendy’s Wackos!
      Skeesters Keesters!
      Dopey’s Dopes!

      THESE are names that will strike FEAR into the hearts of bad guys and terrorists, whoEVER they might be! I’m not quite sure myself who the infantries are gonna be fighting. Guess that Ms. Warpburpin’ will be waitin’ for orders from G-O-D!

      • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 9, 2011 6:48 PM at 6:48 PM |

        p.s. And Bill, one other thing. Can you even BELIEVE that this moronic woman asked for state MONEY for this horseshit? I’m sorry, but I gotta go puke now. NO ONE is that stupid naturally, are they? What IS this woman on? Religion? Oh, I forgot.

  13. John Bates Thayer | February 10, 2011 9:05 AM at 9:05 AM |

    The history of our nation has been that liberals, progressives and civil rights advocates have striven to expand civil rights and civil liberties under our Constituti­on and as a part of our social fabric in general. The rights listed in the Bill of Rights to our Federal Constituti­on, are, among others added later by either constituti­onal amendment or court decisions, considered to be civil rights and liberties. Since ” . . . the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” is a part of our Bill of Rights, why shouldn’t we all be working to expand this civil right just as we have expanded the right to vote, the right to assemble and associate, the right to equal protection of the law, the right to etc., etc. throughout our history?

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 10, 2011 9:46 AM at 9:46 AM |

      Just what are you farting about there, dude? Militias are an expansion of our civil rights? PUUULEEEESE don’t tell me that that is what you just farted out! Are you an idiot, thayer? Here’s the deal, dude, if you or any OTHER inbred militia moron ever tries to arrest me:

      I retain the right to resist an illegal arrest with as much force as necessary.

      I retain the right under the Second Amendment to do so with arms.

      I do NOT surrender my God given rights to ANY inbred militia dufus, for I don’t consider them to be a legal entity, nor do I recognize them as having ANY legal authority over my person!

      I RESPECT only true representatives of Law Enforcement and the laws they enforce.

      I WILL use our Citizen’s Arrest procedures described under law to effect an arrest of ANY illegal entity or inbred militia member who attempts to detain me for any reason, using sufficient force to make the arrest, and then holding the moron until such a time as they can be turned over to the local sherriff as stated by law in the Citizens Arrest Statutes!

      And finally, if some poor asshole gets hurt in the process, I WILL let the courts decide the matter, NOT some inbred militia force. I will let the Surpeme Court figure it out, for I recognize NO illegally formed inbred militia.

      I would rather be judged by twelve than detained by six inbreds! You see, fat inbred paintball enthusiasts are NOT my idea of a legally established law enforcement agency, REGARDLESS of whether or not they have the blessing of an idiot governor!

      If you want the old west, dude, you just might get it. If you’re saying that might makes right, well then, guess we’ll just have to see who’s got the better militia! I’ll bet my life on mine. Will you?

      Hope this helps.

      • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 10, 2011 12:27 PM at 12:27 PM |

        p.s. Let’s stop all this bullshit and cut to the chase, shall we? This is STILL Montana and NOT Colombia! We DON’T threaten judges and we DON’T have para-militaries, militias, home guards, nor any OTHER kind of nutty, illegal guards of ANY type! We have the National Guard, and we have local police forces. And we have the Second Amendment. THAT is our backup, not a bunch of fat, slobberin’, inbred, overweight, bald-headed, Michigan import trochmanite slobs playing dress up! So, just get over it!

        And since this IS Montana, we’re still a rational, sensible, decent people who’ve REPEATEDLY reject hate groups, miliitias, white supremnits, and many other types of wackos. This idiotic militia bill will get a full hearing, and then a full FLUSH!, right down the crapper! It’s not who we are. And I suggest that the good folks up in Wharpburpin’s district do the same next election cycle. Send us someone who is NOT a religeeofundiwackmentalist MORON!

        You see, nutty can NOT be the normal in Montana. The people will not allow it. Eventually they WILL condemn both Wharpburpin’ and Dopey Reeburp. And things will get back on track. NONE of this nonsense was EVER suggested until it seems that the billionaires and their racist allies drew a bead on Montana. Then, apparently, the good christians Dopey and Wendy fell under the spell of the Big Kochs, the Bircher Brothers, the Kochs! These dudes are the most EXTREME of the extreme rightwing wackjobs! And they’re big, BIG billionaires! They’re BIG Kochs! Perhaps the biggest! They seem hellbent on taking over Montana as some sort of rightwing fascist homeland!

        Well, that ain’t a’gonna happen. Sure, maybe Dopey and Wendy fell for the Big Kochs,(and wendy bein’ christyeean and all! tut tut) but I seriously doubt that many other Montanans will! Paramilitaries and their attendant death squads are NOT our style. We AIN’T a banana republic ruled by the Big Kochs yet!

        We’ve SEEN the billionaires moving in, and that’s fine as long as they’re good neighbors. Some are, and some are not. And some are alREADY attempting to once again turn public land and streams into their own private playgrounds! Look at their assualt on stream access once more! This one was over, settled, and done! But it’s NEVER over when the billionaires come to town I guess. Here we go again!

        And now, they want private armies too! Hell, that Kennedy dude down on the Ruby River has been using gun play from his thugs for a long time to intimidate recreationists! Now, he can have his own militia too! Heckuva deal! These dudes want Montana as their own and they’re willing to do whatEVER it takes apparently, including private armies!

        Sorry, but it ain’t gonna happen without on helluva fight. So, let us put this nonsense to rest for now. ALL Montanans need to condemn Wharpburpin’s assualt on our beautiful state. And it’s time to send a message to the Big Kochs: DON’T TREAD ON US! This is Montana. We’ll tread right back on your sorry, billionaire asses! You may be big kochs allright, but you AIN’T the kochs of the walk HERE! We are. And don’t you forget it. Yes, you purchased two of our local ladies of the evening, but that AIN’T the entire state! Sorry to whizz in your tea, boys!

  14. As these seems to be getting out of hand, please read the Bill. HB 278 is a housekeeping bill to “CLARIFY THE ROLE OF THE HOME GUARD” House Bill 278 does not imply that Montana will have a Home Guard, but it does help to clarify the role of the Home Guard if the need should arise, it will give the Governor the tools he needs if the Home Guard is to be established and it gives community organizers the guidelines they need to establish companies within their communities.

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 16, 2011 9:58 PM at 9:58 PM |

      We HAVE no “Hometard”, jonny. No need to clarify something that we don’t have. It ONLY exists in Pope Windy Warpburpin’s teensy, tiny, deranged little fundiwackmentalist mind! The woman is nuckin’ FUTS! We don’t DO nutty in this state. Sorry. Try Idaho. They’re always looking for a few good nuts and inbreds I hear! You can be a Hometard of ONE there! The few, the proud, the INBREDS!

      BTW, jonny, Hometard, Reetard. WHAT’S THE DIFF, DUDE? Not much I’d say. You see, an inbred is an inbred reeGARDless of what they call themselves! And you, and Pope Windy, and ALL the inbreds are reetards! End of story.

      • Why bother discussing issues with an imbecile like you. You’re childish rants do nothing but incite anger and discontent, they honestly have no bearing other than to prop up your own self-indulgent thoughts of self worth within society.

        • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 17, 2011 6:33 AM at 6:33 AM |

          Sorry, deluded lil dude, but I’m NOT discussing ANYthing with you. I’m simply commenting on the actions of the inbreds in the Lege. That really has NOTHING to do with you. Again, if ya don’t like the comments, DON’T READ’EM! You appear to be the only one here who’s upset and angry. I’m not. And MOST people on this forum seem to agree with me. Don’t you inbreds have your OWN forum somewhere? You might find a more receptive audience there if you’re looking for approbation and applause. It ain’t rocket science, dude!

        • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 17, 2011 6:37 AM at 6:37 AM |

          p.s. And deluded ‘lil dude, I see that my pal Col. Richard has found this site. Direct your nonsense at him for awhile. He might be glad to respond.

  15. These guys are morons.

    Me impersonating a legislature member:
    Hey guys i got a good idea, lets give a bunch of drunk pissed off guys power and their own uniforms!!!!

    OOOOO! Good idea!

    oh well. If it does happen and gets out of hand, im shure us responsible people have the means to contain the situation.

  16. The REAL Dante Spado | September 21, 2011 8:45 PM at 8:45 PM |

    DUDE! Not cool. dont go around using my name. If someone searches for me on Google, I dont want them to see some guy sayin things that I really didnt, and impersonating me.

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