Cattle

Keith Regier is out of touch.TEA Party Republican Representative Keith Regier has been comparing women to cattle again in an analogy that he claims explains our “value.”

Here is the audio of Rep. Regier’s comments in the Senate Judiciary committee this week, but as you’ll hear listening to the clip, the analogy was not well-taken.

As the Montana Lowdown reports, the Senate minority leadership have called on the Republicans in charge to formally censure Rep. Regier.  How Senator Peterson and Representative Milburn respond will be telling not only of their characters, but of their ability to reign in the fringe element of their party.

A transcript of the text of the letter sent by Senate Minority Leader Carol Williams, Sen. Kim Gillan, and Sen, Lynda Moss can be read below the fold.

What The Lowdown doesn’t explain are the problems with Regier’s bill, one of a number of fetus-centered laws proposed over the last 8 years in the legislature under the auspices of taking violence against women  more seriously by making it a separate crime if the woman is pregnant.   But, there are reasons to question this claim.  Listening to the legislative testimony for Regier’s bill will show you that the attention lawmakers and advocates have shown for fetuses has not been accompanied by true consideration of the causes, harm, and consequences of domestic violence against women more generally.  Nor has there been any meaningful GOP support for legislation to deal with the problem of domestic violence. In other words, the woman is just the vessel, the empty box, the carrying case for the only thing of value, the fetus.

Anti-abortion activists deny that fetal protectionist homicide laws like Regier’s were created to erode abortion rights or to re-criminalize abortion. But these denials should not be accepted at face value.  The only proponents for Regier’s bill are the anti-choice lobbyists that testify at all of this anti-choice garbage, while the domestic violence advocates oppose his proposal.  And a bill by Rep. Noonan to provide for sentence enhancements for crimes against pregnant women (thereby recognizing that the woman is also a victim) that did not include the anti-choice provision in Regier’s bill was amended to include it in House Judiciary.

President Jim Peterson and Speaker Mike Milburn,

Regretfully, we would like to bring to your attention the comments of Presentative Keith Regier during his bill closing in Senate Judiciary on March 8th 2011. Representative Regier compared women to livestock and property, using terms interchangeably for women and cows.  The notion that pregnant women ought to be treated in any way like cattle is offensive, unacceptable, and embarrassing to our legislature.  We do not place price tags on women the same way that we do on cattle–and a woman’s worth is not valued based on whether or net she is pregnant.  Representative Regier’s analogy was offensive, an insult to all female legislators, to all women in Montana, and to the decorum of our body.

Today is the 100th Annual International Women’s Day. Women in Montana make up a majority of our constituents and play an important roll in our state.  Representative Regier’s remarks have gone to far.  We ask that you censure Representative REgier under Joint Rules 10-85, “legislators  and legislative employees have the right to work free of harassment on account of race, color, sex, culture, social origin or condition, or religious ideas when performing services in furtherance of legislative responsibilities, whether the offender is an employer, employee, legislator, lobbyist, or member of the public,” and we also request that he pubilcly apologize to the Senate, House, and the women of Montana.

Sincerely,

Senator Carol Williams, Minority Leader
Senator Kim Gillan, Minority Whip
Senator Lynda Moss, Judiciary Committee Chair

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36 Comments on "Cattle"

  1. Great letter from Williams, et al. This boobus needs a quick ride on a rail back to the toolies.

  2. Something of a tempest in a teacup, I’d say…

  3. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | March 9, 2011 10:13 AM at 10:13 AM |

    Well there you have it. How DOES one find common ground and compromise with an asshole who is also an imbecile? I couldn’t do it. I’m amazed at the restraint shown by the female legislators in attendance. I would have been thrown out at that point.

    At LEAST the moron had the decency to NOT use black women specifically as an example. Hey, I guess that’s kinda like a compromise. There actually WAS a time as we all know when preg tested women of the black race probably WERE more “valuable” to their “owners”!

    And check out the response from the Pubbies at the Lowdown in the update. It’s kosher to refer to women as cattle.

    What’s happening here is that the Pubbies are amassing a huge warchest of wacko capital. And they use it in two ways. One, they dribble it out for the fundiwackmentalist base to keep them happy. And two, they use it as a distraction while they make the other wacko stuff seem moderate by comparison.

    And they have a seemingly endless supply of idiots like this Regir dude to keep building upon the wacko capital. These people are truly shameless lowlifes.

    Wonder how Rigger’s wife likes being called a fat cow! Hey, more cushion less pushin’, right Rigger old boy? Gotchya a nice fat ol’ heifer, do ya, dude? You lucky stiff! Is she open or preg tested? And of course, you used artificial insemination, dinja? Hey, you stand behind your work, donja?!

    What a pathetic asshole.

  4. I noticed that Denise Juneau has RSVPed on Facebook to attend this weekend’s Fundraiser for Dave Wanzenried for Governor. It’s a very public slap in the face to American Indian State Senator Shannon Augare, who has also announced his attention to run. Ouch.

  5. That can’t be true, she wouldn’t be so stupid as to take sides so early in such a high profile race, espcially against the known favorite, who is obviously Bullock. I can’t believe she would do this.

    • Nope, it is true. Uh..very interesting…and um…wow…I am without words…

    • She probably has no idea how and why this is a problem. you need to do some better screening of and trainingfor your candidates. This one is not ready for prime time…

      • She is allowed to endorse whom she wants. It’s not like she’s a candidate for any of these folks to select for LT, as she doesn’t bring anything additional to the ticket in terms of geography or vote base that any of these dems already don’t already have, nor does she help Bullock ameliorate his natural resource problem, she only emphasizes it, so who cares whom she endorses. It does not matter people. It does not matter.

  6. The teatards also have a huge stake in making sure their women don’t get uppity and want to have edumacations and careers instead of staying barefoot and preggers on the farm. It’s their ultimate fear that the white race is swiftly becoming a minority because nationwide, white women are waiting later in life to start having children and thus have fewer reproductive years and fewer babies than Black and Latino women, who statistically start their families earlier.

    Or, it could just be that they hate and disrespect women.

  7. This is shaping up to be great theater. Six or seven repub candidates four or five d’s. Gotta love Mt. Politics.

  8. It was time for the women legislators, albiet just Democrats, to make a statement about the thinly veiled bigotry that is unfortunately seeping into this legislative session. We simply want it to stop…and I am troubled that this was not handled promptly. This should be a priority issue…as montana women make enormous contributions to our communities…not just today, but they have for hundreds of years….

    • Senator Gillan you are amazing! Thanks so much for standing up to this guy. I have been sitting at home watching this and trying to explain to my daughters why this man would say it and now I can tell them that this behavior is not the norm.

  9. Bullock runs, Bullock wins primary, bullock picks none of the other statewides nor other dem candidates as lts,and I’ll bet anyone who cares to email me at mrwalt55@gmail.com real cash money.

  10. Thank you Senator Gillan for visiting the Montana Cowgirl Blog! Let me take this opportunity to thank you for your leadership and for standing up for women across Montana. You make us proud!!

  11. I would further argue that it is never okay to treat cattle as we do or to put price tags on their lives and reproductive systems. All oppression is linked. As long as we feel it is okay to exploit any group, oppression will always exist and will always be a danger to EVERYONE.

  12. My cows are worth more once they are preg tested. I’m not sure I see the problem with comparing women to cows on national women day……hahaha, I can’t even type this with a straight face.

  13. Speaking of mr Knox, I just heard the citizens of billings are less then 100 signatures away from recalling his election. What sweet justice that would be. If knox had a brain he would be dangerous, instead he is just dumb.

  14. WHAT is that thing on Keith Reiger’s head? It looks like an aluminum mushroom cap… His delivery sounded so similar to
    Bob Wagner’s birther interview on CNN… I wonder if they took the same “training” to help them deliver the ‘message? and if the cap is a special device ? I also see that my spell check does not recognize “birther” hooray, a new word! Ah me.

  15. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | March 10, 2011 7:05 PM at 7:05 PM |

    Let’s be honest for a moment, shall we? These wacko teawankers are REALLY simply perverts! They get a cheap thrill out of talking about the most intimate, private, personal sexual issues in PUBLIC! They get off on it! And that’s just plain ass sick and KINKY!

    They are sickos, and should be viewed as such. It is NONE OF THEIR DAMN BUSINESS what people do regarding personal, sexual and medical issues. ONLY perverts pursue this in an obscenely public display! ONLY pervs get off on discussing sex in an inappropriate manner. And ONLY a perv would purposely compare women to cattle! IT’S ABUSIVE! ONLY a sicko does this! What the hell is WRONG with this Riger dude? He looks for all the world to be a sexual predator!

    And then, to top it off, he insults all women! They are pervs, misogynists, hypocrites, and wierdos! The ONLY thing missing is their raincoats and pantlegs fastened around their knees! Hell, that could be the DRESS code of the Teawanker party!

    If the Pubbie leadership won’t condemn them as sicko, slimey perverts, the people of Montana must do so! Their behavior insults our entire state!

  16. He should also apologize on behalf of men for making the men of Montana look like such insensative jerks. I mean, what in the world was this guy thinking comparing women to cows and structures?

  17. Lt. Col (Ret., Army) Rich Liebert | March 10, 2011 8:00 PM at 8:00 PM |

    Thanks you Sen. Gillan, Rep. Trudi Schmidt and others for NOT tolerating this bad behavior, hardly the action of ANY gentleman, and there’s ‘no class’ in the ranks of the Tea Party especially as they ignore the ‘Cowboy Code’ about being fair, and by the way, not everything is for sale, righ – except when it comes to eminent domain….pathetic.

    The US Army – I would assume the Tea Party might respect that, as they like to wrap themselves in the Flag or fly upside down – does NOT encourage or tolerate condescending behavior to female soldiers, and having led men and women, it’s entirely UNACCEPTABLE, and when women first joined the volunteer force, there was some adjustment, but when guys joke I tell ’em, ‘Would YOU treat your fellow soldiers – a female – like ‘that’ if she was your aunt, sister or DAUGHTER?”

    Stay true and be brave, don’t accept the intolerence and arrogance, and as Andrew Jackson said, ‘Even when one citizen
    shows courage, that is a majority.’

  18. @ Rich Liebert;
    Most of the Tea Baggers are Chickenhawks who’ve never served; but they don’t mind sending others to fight their battles for them.
    – Rodger S., USN (’68-72)

  19. Lt. Col (Ret., Army) Rich Liebert | March 10, 2011 10:29 PM at 10:29 PM |

    Thanks Rodger…it’s also shameful when the ‘Tea Baggers’ (yes, I’ll use that term until they stop calling health reform ‘Obamacare’…truce t/p?)complain about our federal government, will they give up their benefits, like VA disability payments, Medicaid, Medicare, federal retirment benefits, pensions, military retiree health benefits, and the most ‘socialist’ of all – drumroll – SOCIAL SECURITY??!! Yes, we must examine entitlements, and perhaps raise the age level WHEN all of America can have proper healthcare by reforming the health insurance industries, where guys like Scott in Florida made millions while he’s trying to privatize public sector service jobs.

    I was in the NRA in ninth grade, and have always owned and respected firearms, and have them for utility needs on my ranch, and I have NO need for a .50 caliber M2 Browning heavy machine-gun
    to boost my ego, but a shotgun, a few pistols, rifle or two enough.

    As General George Washington noted – and observed – ‘patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel’ and that captures my assessment of ‘patriot posturing’……….

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | March 11, 2011 10:10 PM at 10:10 PM |

      Rich, you confound the Teawankers, most of whom are the chickenist of chickenhawks! Hell, there’s SO many chickenhawks amongst the Teawanekers that they could start their OWN Kentucky Fried Chickenhawks!!

  20. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | March 11, 2011 9:35 PM at 9:35 PM |

    Here’s what my pal Barry G. has to say to a dipshit like little Rigger! And BTW, keeth, Barry G. is the REAL DEAL, dink!

    Goldwater concluded with a waming to the American people. “The religious factions will go on imposing their will on others,” { he said,} “unless the decent people connected to them recognize that religion has no place in public policy. They must learn to make their views known without trying to make their views the only alternatives. . . We have succeeded for 205 years in keeping the affairs of state separate from the uncompromising idealism of religious groups and we mustn’t stop now” { he insisted}. “To retreat from that separation would violate the principles of conservatism and the values upon which the framers built this democratic republic.”

  21. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | March 11, 2011 9:42 PM at 9:42 PM |

    Here’s the entire article about Goldwater. Folks, you just KNOW we’re in deep shit when Barry looks like a lefty!

    But I think that it’s VITALLY important to see just how far the center has shifted to the right, or to evil as I like to say. And let’s face it, Goldwater makes some DAMN GOOD POINTS about fighting back against these little religeeofascist dicktaters like keeth regeer! (he’s brain tested, and sadly, found to be OPEN!) Read and learn from the FATHER of conservatism.

    http://www.liberalslikechrist.org/about/Goldwater.html

  22. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | March 11, 2011 9:49 PM at 9:49 PM |

    And on a personal note to Regier, I think that the Father of Conservatism (and a man I admire greatly), just called you a PERV you slimey piece of tea!

  23. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | March 11, 2011 9:53 PM at 9:53 PM |

    But on one more personal note to keeth reeger, I must thank you PROFUSELY for being such a dipshit, dude! You provide me with ENDLESS material for humor. Sorry to hear that you’re OPEN though! BHWHAHAHAAA!

    Yes, I’m laffing at you dude. And please do take that personally.

  24. Wow. Censure is far too light for this yahoo. He is proof positive of the deception and Handmaid’s-Tale misogyny behind all these fetal protection laws. Vote him out!

  25. Way to spin the comment. Representative Reiger was making the point that even the fetus’s in cattle are considered to have a value, So why is it we don’t consider the fetus within a woman to have value? This doesn’t itself imply that women are only a “vessel” and have no value, Quite the opposite. It suggests that both have a value, the woman and the fetus. How can it be ok for the fetus of a woman to have no value while the fetus of a cow does?

    Do you think your fetus has no value? He at least seems to think that it does and needs some kind of protection..

    A crime upon a woman is heinous, but a crime upon a pregnant woman should be considered extremely heinous. Do you not find the attack on a pregnant woman more offensive than the attack on a non-pregnant woman? Does this itself imply the non-pregnant woman is worthless? Absolutely not.

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | June 28, 2011 7:14 PM at 7:14 PM |

      Um, jonny, you maybe have some vested interest in someone else’s fetus? How so, dufus? Explain in specific detail what gives YOU the right to intrude where you’re not wanted? What gives YOU the right to place “value” on something that you don’t own? What authority makes YOU able to place a value on the fetus of another? I don’t get it. It’s really NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS what medical decisions a woman makes. That’s between her and her doctor, NOT between little jonny and this pervert reiger! You pervs really need to get a life and stop trying to foist YOUR “morals” on others. That’s just sick and perverted. Comparing women to cattle simply makes you a horse’s ass. True story. You morons are way outta your league, jonny. Who died and made YOU perverts god, jonjon? You’re an idiot who has no clue as to what he’s talking about. But hey, if you don’t want an abortion, don’t have one.

  26. Spin? If this had been about protecting pregnant women rather than restricting the right to choose, the R’s would have voted for Rep. Noonan’s bill to add enhanced sentences for pregnant women. They did not. Next.

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