FACT CHECK: Republican Misquotes Party’s Founder

In today’s Twitter frenzy of enlightening and intelligent statements by Representative Derek Skees (R Whitefish Kalispell), this statement appeared:

If Republicans can't even get quotes from their own founder right, what else are they getting wrong?

However, according to the book They Never Said it: A Book of Fake Quotes, Misquotes, & Misleading Attributions, these words are not from Lincoln. The quotes were published in 1942 by William J. H. Boetcker, a Presbyterian minister.  He released a pamphlet titled Lincoln On Limitations, which did include a Lincoln quote, but also added 10 statements written by Boetcker himself.

This is not the first time that legislative Republicans have been caught misinforming the public about the words of President Lincoln.

On January 5, 2009, MT House Minority Leader Scott Sales (R-Bozeman) read a series of quotes that were attributed to former President Abraham Lincoln. A newspaper reporter looked into those quotes and found that they have been mis-attributed to Lincoln.  Sales was forced to apologize on the House Floor on Jan 8, 2009, to address the issue, saying he’d been “duped” because he got his information from the internet.

We’re not sure where Skees gets his information, but if his source was the internet, he must have missed this article about the gaffe and Sales’ apology and retraction here.

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20 Comments on "FACT CHECK: Republican Misquotes Party’s Founder"

  1. If ya read that article about Sales, you would see that it was the exact same quote they both attributed to Lincoln. We Republicans really like that one…

  2. I’m just trying to imagine why Skees would have chosen to quote Lincoln in the first place. Jefferson Davis would have seemed to be a better choice:

    “The contest is not over, the strife is not ended. It has only entered upon a new and enlarged arena.” Jefferson Davis, address to the Mississippi legislature – 16 years after the wars end.

  3. Rep. Skees won by a whopping 87 votes in 2010. He voted to privatize the Vets home in Columbia Falls. What a trooper!

  4. Caterpiller is threstening to leave Illnois over Tax rates. I say if the leave this Country they no longer get Defense and Federal Contracts

    http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/28/news/companies/caterpillar_illinois_tax/index.htm

    • This is indicative of the problem facing the Federal Budget. In short, spending cuts cannot hope to keep up with even meeting the crushing interest payments on the debt we already have. Taxes will HAVE to be addressed and by doing so, we will invite similar retalitory threats from Business and Corporations.

      Were I the Governor of Illinois, I would call the bluff. Caterpiller employs 23,000 people in Illinois. Presumably, they have millions, if not billions of dollars invested in buildings, equipment, materials and agreements with local entities as well. The cost of moving their plant to another state would be FAR more than paying the additional taxes imposed by the new Illinois budget. Worse, the state of Illinois HAD to adjust their tax system given that it hadn’t been addressed since 1989.

      This is a simple case of a large corporation flexing it’s corporate muscle to try to intimidate politicians into doing what they want. It isn’t really a question of whether Cat will move their facilities – regardless of how they are being smoozed by other States. It is more a question of what concessions their threats will net them from the politicians in Illinois. The public outcry alone would sink Cat if they did move and put 28,000 people out of work, not withstanding the fees and suits they would face from those 28,000 people being unemployed.

      The only difference between Cat and the other companies making these threats (to both States and the Federal Governments) is that Cat is doing it openly.

      • I would also add that Cat repay all the special deals it’s probably gotten thru the years to stay in Il. By my folks in Florida this company talked the town into building them a plant and within 3 years they moved overseas and the town was stuck…

        • Lynn,

          I was one of those non degreed engineers that was purged from Intel in 2000. What I find interesting is that they replaced me with (not one but) three engineers (recent college grads). Inside of a year, they shipped my entire department to India – putting all three of those recent college grads on the unemployment line. Outsourcing to other countries is the standard in the manufacturing/Business world today (though companies like Intel are now feeling the pinch of some of that when one of the countries they outsourced to was Japan). For this reason, a large percentage of truly middle class jobs have PERMANENTLY left the country. Sadly, there is little to replace those jobs and most of the replacement jobs have been in the lower paid service industry. Unless the Federal Government steps in and enacts some kind of financial sanctions to keep those jobs in country, the situation will probably get a LOT worse before it gets better.

  5. Hahaha – this is just like Skee’s pal Tim Ravndal attributing a quote to “The Alamo.” This man is a moron of Charlie Sheen proportions.

  6. I mean Skees.

  7. Concerned in Montana | March 28, 2011 7:09 PM at 7:09 PM |

    More on Hale..

    All,
    Here is our ‘representative’ Alan Hale: I just wanted to pass this along to you. Hale once again defended drunk driving on the floor of the House today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl_QNa-bCKc

    .. As I told Mr Hale, there are two other ways to get to and from a bar ~ horseback or with a designated driver…

  8. Lt. Col (Ret., Army) Rich Liebert | March 28, 2011 11:45 PM at 11:45 PM |

    Charlie Sheen for Montana legislature 2012!!! Mr. Skee’s a little ‘light’ on doing his homework (watch him on Youtube in regards to his ‘argument’ to reduce the Supreme Court justices before the GOP judiciary chair), but here are some SOLID Lincoln quotes from ‘Lincoln on Leadership’ by Donald T. Phillips:

    (note: I find it striking that now Mr. Lincoln ‘useful’ when it seems to fit, vs. Jeff Davis or Nathanial Bedford Forrest?)

    “With public sentiment, nothing can fail; without it, nothing can succeed. Consequently, he who molds public sentiment goes deeper than he who enacts statutes or pronounces decisions.” (take note Governor Walker, the People have awoken.)

    “Make haste slowly.” Advice to his generals

    “I shall do nothing in malice. What I deal with is too vast for malicous dealing.” reference to letter on admitting Louisiana back into the Union, 28 July 1862

  9. Skees is for getting rid of “Obamacare” for cutting help to the poor and needy, for cutting money to the school for the deaf and blind kids, for privatizing the vets home, yet he takes his $733.00 in health insurance from the State of Montana. Along with Dr. Kerns and all the good teabaggers and nazis at the legislature. He quotes Abe Lincoln yet wears a confederate flag on his shirt! And probley votes for states rights in the sheriffs first bill. Give me a brake.

  10. On March 28th Skees did 27 tweets in a day!! Is this what he is being paid for? Stop being a twit and get to work. Pass a bill, you fool.

  11. The democracy will cease to exist when you take from those who would work and give to those who will not-

    Thomas Jefferson

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 4, 2011 4:24 PM at 4:24 PM |

      Who doesn’t work, dude? I have yet to meet that person. I’m thinkin’ that you’re blowin’ smoke out your ass. But please do tell, just WHAT sort of work do YOU do that you think is so hard? I’m thinkin’ that you GREATLY overvalue your contribution to society. I’m thinkin’ that you’re livin’ on the gubmint dole, like MOST good teawankers.

  12. We may not all be perfect in attributing quotes, but we know what we want……

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 4, 2011 4:29 PM at 4:29 PM |

      What do you want, dude? Spears? Secession? Nullification? Seems that all you want is bullshit.

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