Complete Fraud

Liz Bangerter (R-Helena) is a complete fraud who was elected to represent a liberal district and then, on most issues, turned out to be one of the most conservative scumbags out there. 

Bangerter ran as a moderate,  through also a devout Mormon, in Helena, one of the state’s most progressive towns. This was supposed to make us think that she wouldn’t be a smug, sanctimonious liar. I mean, Mormons are known for telling the truth. Well, we guess there’s an exception to every rule, and Bangerter is quite the exception.

With the backing of Big Insurance – and the biggest lobbying money spent in the entire 2011 legislative session, Bangerter sponsored proposal to allow life and auto insurance companies to discriminate against women.  The insurance industry even had the audacity to have a woman sponsor the discrimination bill, and its sponsor, Liz Bangerter blatantly lied when she claimed (as she argued for a bill to end the ban on discrimination against women) that women would benefit.

Yes, “Representative” Liz Bangerter is some piece of work.

Bangerter tried to act the role of a pious protector of the Constitution, even as she sponsored one of the most unconstitutional bills of the session–but she’s just another low-life GOP hypocrite.  The bill would allow insurance companies to base rates on gender rather than driving record-discrimination which the Montana Constitution specifically prohibits.  So in spite of all the big insurance industry cash spent on the session, Schweitzer vetoed the bill.  Bangerter’s is one more seat that the Republicans won’t be keeping.



23 Comments on "Complete Fraud"

  1. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | June 9, 2011 7:20 AM at 7:20 AM |

    Hard to believe that anyone who actually READ her reasons for running would think that she’s in any way a liberal. I mean, what she has written is complete rightwing talking point bullsh*t. She hits EVERY nazi talking point. “Common sense, love of god, responsibility, freedom, etc.” Any time someone lists “love of good” and “freedom” as their motivations for elected office, for the love of god RUN THE OTHER WAY! As fast as you can! For you just KNOW there’s sumthin’ real wrong with these kind of folks!

    This woman has nutjob written all over her.
    But for the record, can anyone describe what she has written as anything other than Palinesque nonsense? In jr. high, when we would write something such as this, our meaner teachers would write “snowjob” at the top of the page. And that is exactly what Lizzie’s page should read.

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | June 9, 2011 7:24 AM at 7:24 AM |

      p.s. And the statement that really gives her away is the one about “if we have extra food in our cupboards, we help our neighbors in an emergency”. Very Mormonish. ONLY take care of gentiles in emergencies. It don’t get much more rightwing than that. Things would just run so much smoother if we were all Mormons.

  2. Ryan Emmett Morton | June 9, 2011 7:33 AM at 7:33 AM |

    Did she beat out Don Judge? If he doesn’t run again, I may have to.

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | June 9, 2011 7:53 AM at 7:53 AM |

      If that really is a liberal district, I gotta ask what’s WRONG with those people? Hell, even someone as slow as myself can spot a phony like her a mile away. Geez, them folks must be some really dumb liberals. Maybe them state employees down there were gonna show the gubmint their dissatisfaction by voting in a Teawanker. Well, they SHOWED’EM allright. Now what? I wouldn’t call that district liberal, just dumbass.

      • Ryan Emmett Morton | June 9, 2011 8:55 AM at 8:55 AM |

        So, you think I shouldn’t run? LOL! I’ll set up an exploratory committee.

        • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | June 9, 2011 9:49 AM at 9:49 AM |

          Heck, if Jumbo Jimmy Knoxious can make it into our Lege, a potted PLANT could with enough Big Kockh money! So, I don’t know you, Ryan, but go for it! Even if we have to water you twice a day, you’ll STILL be better qualified than any of the Teawankers! BTW, do you love god? Freedom? The Constitution? The Flag? The military? And gays? (just kidding on that one)

          • Ryan Emmett Morton | June 9, 2011 9:56 AM at 9:56 AM |

            I am gay. (Not kidding) :-)

          • Ryan Emmett Morton | June 9, 2011 9:56 AM at 9:56 AM |

            And I love gays… just to be queer.

            • Ryan, that has jack to do with your ability to represent the people of Montana. You should give running a serious thought. After the last session of clowns, its painfully obvious that we need grown ups who can address the serious problems we have in MT.

              • Ryan Emmett Morton | June 9, 2011 1:08 PM at 1:08 PM |

                Dan – I’ve ran for office before. I was just joking along with Larry about loving gays (though true).

                Anyhoo, if I do decide to run, I promise to have a thoughtful, liberal platform and represent the district vocally, respectfully, and honestly. I’m just too far away from making any decision yet.

                Thank you for suggestion though – I have already and will continue to give it serious thought. :-)

      • LK, a lot of folks stayed home in 2010. i think it was the Republican legislation of the national Democratic Party that depressed enthusiasm among a significant amount of their 2008 supporters.

        That translated into big Dem mid term losses everywhere except CA. All those folks stayed home. It was also reminiscent of the mid-term of Bill Clinton, and for much the same reasons.

        However, anyone who caught the TV coverage of the MT lege couldn’t help but see just how bush league a large part of the Republican caucus are. It was shocking, actually.

        • Not only did a lot of folks stay home in 2010, but Obama was massively unpopular-especially his health care bill. That was a big factor, but the $4 million spent by Western Tradition Partnership and other shadow groups was the biggest problem facing democratic legislative candidates.

          • I do not understand what the big deal is with Obama’ healthcare plan. I mean we can only expect a candidate for office to do two things, be honest about his campaign and then when elected do what she said he would do(I break with traditional grammar and alternated genders so that I didn’t he/she all over you). Obama did what he said he was going to do within a reasonable margin of error(There is the senate and house that has to be compromised with). Its like going into a restaurant and ordering a cheeseburger and when it gets to the table saying “WTF!? I wanted a pizza!”. Obama did what he said we would do if we elected him, to have done anything else would have been dishonest.

        • Steve, I remain unconvinced of your thesis. Yes, a lot of folks stayed home in 2010. But comparing to 2008 is specious. 2010 was off year, and 2008 was not.

          Focusing just on Montana (which is actually relevant to the post) voter turnout for an off year election was about typical for registered voters in Montana going back to the mid-’90s. Interestingly enough, James Connor (who you decided needed insulting in another thread)has a pretty good analysis of how the lowered turnout in 2010 wasn’t among registered voters but rather among eligible voters. The reasons for that could be many and varied, not the least of which being people moving into our fair state who can’t be bothered to register to vote in Montana.

          I would be as foundationally correct to say that these folk are lazy as you would when you claim they are unhappy with Rocky Road ice cream as opposed to blueberry. Neither of us know why people fail to register to vote, or who those people actually are. Ascribing to them your motivations is little more than confirmation bias. It should be distrusted.

          To be fair, what does support your claims are the under-performance in 2010 in Missoula and Gallatin counties. It should well be noted, however, that those are two of the fastest growing counties in Montana. So, laziness among transplants is every bit as valid a reason as any other. It would appear, however, that Lewis and Clark county did not see a substantial drop-off in voter turnout. So one does wonder how Bangerter won the seat in question. I don’t think I’m going too far out on a limb to suggest that it wasn’t debilitating disappointment among liberals, but rather rabid and frothing enthusiasm among the Teafaithful.

          • Interestingly enough, it was soon after referring to the data from James Conner’s site that I posted to Larry’s comment, RK. I went there and read some of his stuff after i saw his response to Jed.

            Here is a link to Mr Conner’s site where I got my data from.

            You will notice that Mr. Conner makes the claim that:


            I have zero reason to disagree with James Conner’s conclusion. He seems to have provided the data and that’s good enough for me, even if it isn’t good enough for you Rob.

            I don’t believe i insulted Mr Conner. i did dispute his opinion on the analgesic benefits of cannabis. I hope he learned some new information. i know I did when I read his piece on VEPs in Montana. thanks, James!

            As i recall, i said back during the spring/summer of 2009 that I feared the Dems would pass a national version of Romney Care and that there would probably be a voter backlash from the left as a result of that legislation as well as other Republican ideas being pushed by some Democrats. At the time i pointed out that the same extra large loss for Democrats occured back in the mid term of 1996 after Bill Clinton had rammed through some Republican ideas such as NAFTA.

            This is what i believe happened in the 2010 elections in general, and i believe it’s reflected in James Conner’s data. It’s also reflected in yours and others disloyalty attacks on the left who have grown increasingly vocal about the bad direction we see certain aspects of the country headed in.

            As to an individual district, there are many factors, many of them local, that effect outcomes. For instance, the poster who wondered if Judge had door-knocked the district as much as his opponent brought up one such possible factor.

            It isn’t any easier to win, how ever, if a bunch of people feel unmotivated to get up and go out and vote. Which, for some reason, more people did in the last election than in the last 30 years at least.

            • Steve, you made the claim that voter turnout was down in 2010 as compared to 2008. That’s a ‘no shit, Sherlock’ kind of thing. That happens every time someone compares an off year election with a Presidential election going back to the mid 90s in Montana. I was disagreeing with your lack of foundation for the reasons you see for such. Conner’s expose shows this clearly. The problem isn’t that people don’t get up and vote. It’s that those who are not registered don’t stir their asses up to go out and register. You assume a “why” for that fact. I’m still waiting for you to provide any evidence that you’re right.

  3. As I say follow the money, I don’t care what they say, check whose donating to their campaigns

  4. This was one of those races that had big bucks spent by the WTP. Judge ran a great race. He raised $10k more. But the Check Denowh-John Sinrud’s of the world must have dumped double that in direct mail into that district. I don’t know if Judge will run again.

  5. I dont live in that district but am very close to it and around election time there were probably 10 “liz B” signs for every Don Judge. Not that the signs make an election but they do mean something. I also know many people in the district who had their door knocked on at least once by Liz B but noone ever saw Judge. He just didnt seem too visible in the community. Im sure Judge is a nice guy and all but you kind of got the impression he thought he could just show up and win because of his district. (based on what I saw as an observer living near the district..I dont know Judge and dont know what he did or didnt do) Coupled with the general feeling in the air of the last election to elect t-bags and repubs…plus her ‘moderate’ branding to try and not scare off normal people.. it was the perfect storm for her to sneak in. I dont see that happening again.

  6. We need to make sure we vote in 2012 and keep a close eye on these candidates. I agree with Larry. From her website, this woman was never and never will be a liberal. Bet she’s against helping flood victims, too.

  7. Rep. Bangerter was very pro-public safety in her position on House Judiciary Committee. She helped knock off several ill conceived, extreme ‘gun bills’ in Committee…bills that might have done very well on the House floor this session (esp. HB 271 & HB 384).

    In so doing she broke with her leadership, Vice Chair Krayton Kerns, and the majority of the Committee…Not to mention Gary Marbut & the Montana Shooting Sports Association, the NRA, & Tim Ravndal & the local Tea Party group.

    Law Enforcement associations–Sheriffs, Police, County Attorneys–appreciated Rep. Bangerter’s support.

  8. Word is she admitted being a proud member of ALEC before a House Judiciary meeting during the session, and denied they were partisan in any way.

  9. Rep. Bangerter was very opposed to most of the anti-immigrant legislation proposed by Tea Party extremists, and actually spoke out against various bills targeting immigrants several times. She also voted for the bill to add LGBT folks to the Montana Human Rights Act and against the bill to nullify the Missoula ordinance in committee, but then flipped during floor votes on both bills without any real explanation.

    I decided to comment on here because of the previous remark by Eyeore.

    Rep. Bangerter and I had an exchange in committee during questions on one of Rep. Howard’s bills to require authorized status confirmations before an immigrant receives public services. I brought up, after being asked by Rep. Hill to expound on the background behind these bills, the documented involvement by organizations like ALEC and Corrections Corporations of America in moving enforcement-based, anti-immigrant legislation forward as a tool for increasing company profits. Most notably Arizona’s SB 1070. I referred to ALEC as a far-right organization that promoted conservative legislation. I believe she either objected, or made a point of personal privilege, to say that I was wrong. I can’t remember if she admitted she was a member of ALEC or not, but she called them “non-partisan” which was alarming, but not surprising — considering that groups like the John Birch Society and the ultra-conservative tea party splinter groups were helping push along legislation and move lawmakers in 2011 — that she’d find a group like ALEC to be somehow a moderate organization.

    All of that is archived at least in audio, if not video, online.

    Jamee Greer

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