What You Won’t Read in the Gazette about the Arrested Anti-Choice Activist

The man that the Gazette paints as a hapless local minister arrested for tresspassing is actually the national leader of the hardline anti-choice group called “Personhood USA.”

The Billings Gazette calls Calvin Zastrow, “a Billings resident and minister for the Assemblies of God.”  But, a quick Google search of the man (what an amazing tool, Google) reveals a much different picture.

Cal Zastrow co-founded Personhood USA, the out-of-state group pushing initiatives to ban abortion and some forms of birth control in several states. He is the group’s national leader and spokesperson.   He lists a DC phone number and calls himself “America’s premier trainer” for the anti-choice initiative and petition process.  Zastrow boasts that he works today with Operation Rescue.  The group has been linked to the bombing of women’s clinics, not to mention clinic blockades and invasions, arson, bombing and arson threats, death threats, chemical attacks, stalking, physical violence and gunfire.

It turns out the Billings arrest isn’t his first rodeo.  Zastrow has made a career of getting arrested and openly brags about his various arrests and sentences across the U.S.  (Getting arrested is part of his strategy for getting in the press.  We can see it’s working.)  This isn’t even Zastrow’s first arrest in Billings–he worked up a similar scheme when he visited the state over a decade ago.

Cal Zastrow encourages people to get young people involved in the anti-choice movement, “because they have less to lose by getting arrested.”   He thinks his arrests make him a martyr.  He thinks getting arrested allows him to compare himself to Martin Luther King Jr.

Get this:

Cal’s incarceration for loving his neighbor is in the tradition of men like John Bunyan, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Alan Keyes, and Martin Luther King Jr. His longest jail sentence, of 90 days in the Saginaw County Jail, Michigan, leads Cal to conclude that going to jail isn’t as bad as being dismembered by Planned Parenthood.

Sure, he’s been to Montana before.  Zastrow was the national big-wig brought in to kick off the new, more extreme,  Constitution Party of MT. The MT group broke off from the National Constitution Party for being “too liberal.” Zastrow told the splinter group that the problem isn’t political parties:

Instead, Cal says the problem is “demons from hell manifested as lies,” because a “law that lets women murder unborn children is hell.”

The absolute ban on abortion and some forms of birth control that Zastrow is pushing recently failed in Mississippi. In fact, it’s failed in every state that Zastrow’s group has attempted the ballot initiative.

Among all Montana’s anti-abortion activist groups (Montana Catholic Conference, the Montana Family Foundation, the Eagle Forum, the Concerned Women of America, and the Right To Life of Montana not one is supporting the so-called “Personhood Amendment.”

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112 Comments on "What You Won’t Read in the Gazette about the Arrested Anti-Choice Activist"

  1. Ok having gathered signatures on an issue in the last election, I can say this there are election judges that are a little too over zealous, cause you are allowed to gather signatures at polling places, but you cant interfer with the voters going to vote, so you can only get signatures after voting has taken place, and you have to stand so many feet away from the polling place, aka you cant go inside where the voting is happening. Also school board elections are the most boring place to gather signatures in my opinion. Now yes this guy does have a first amendment right, but still he does not have the right to disturbe the peace, and he cant for example yell fire in a crowded theater. Now as far as the issue he is gathering on, it was presented in 08 and 10 and both times it failed to gather enough signatures to make it to the ballot. I feel that if it is passed, the State of Montana will spend a boat load of money on legal fees defending it, I dont think it will pass constitutional muster either the federal constitution or the state constitution. So in short he is tilting at windmills.

  2. Does he have the right to abuse taxpayer resources (police, court system) to get himself in the news? Maybe, though it certainly reflects poorly on his cause. The public should have the right to see it for what it is, however.

  3. Ingemar Johansson | February 24, 2012 9:54 AM at 9:54 AM |

    Quote: “Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., stridently denounced abortion as a form of genocide in many speeches.” (Lifelines, Winter 1997, p.14 online)

    • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS | February 25, 2012 2:18 PM at 2:18 PM |

      Yea I saw your copy and paste but, MLK never accepted the Sanger award. Alvada King does not speak for the King family, she is considered the crazy Cousin! I will believe his son over Alvada any day of the week!

      Margaret Sanger and later her award aligned with the eugenicists Movement whose ideology prevailed in the early 20th century. Eugenicists strongly espoused racial supremacy and “purity,” particularly of the “Aryan” race. Eugenicists hoped to purify the bloodlines and improve the race by encouraging the “fit” to reproduce and the “unfit” to restrict their reproduction. They sought to contain the “inferior” races through segregation, sterilization, birth control and abortion. I do not know of a black who would espouse that bullshit, any more then a Jew or true catholic except that!

      MLK was Pro-contraception, Ingie and he also believed in abortion for rape victims and when having a child would harm the mother! You Guys cant tell that BS to people of color, Intelligent Independents, or Democrats. we know MLK’s history better then you do!

      Its based on false premises that are said to be in the bible there isn’t anything in the new testament that speaks against abortion! Nothing!

      Another lie of his group is most Planned Parenthood centers are in urban centers of color! False! Only about 15 percent are in places where Black people live. 85% is in white Neighborhoods, because white families! Lastly onlt 3% of planned parenthood money deals with Abortion, the rest is medical wellness from disease!

      Keep up the disinformation, thats what you Tea party are good at!

      • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS | February 25, 2012 2:41 PM at 2:41 PM |

        Shoulda Been a little more specific! I was Blaming idiots like Calvin Zastrow on false premises about abortion. Words that Christian Right that are say the bible speaks to something like it that didn’t exist in that time. there isn’t anything in the new testament that speaks against abortion Either Nothing!

        Those all nighters with the Bioware testing crew…means I need another cup of coffee!

  4. WRONG. You site an anti-choice site claiming this is what King said. You offer no evidence that he said these things. In fact, King was an advocate for women.

    http://jezebel.com/5876611/no-fox-news-martin-luther-king-jr-wasnt-anti+abortion

    • Dr King was speaking in the world of the Mississippi Appendectomy, not today’s world. This is a War on women’s rights. The Conservatives do not believe that anyone who is not a Rich White Land owner has a right to vote or decide anything for themselves.

      http://mississippiappendectomy.wordpress.com/2007/11/19/black-women-in-the-1960s-and-1970s/

      • Lynn, Dr. King’s contemporaries at the time thought otherwise: http://www.angelfire.com/mo/baha/king.html

        • We don’t know what Dr King would say right now. His beliefs were in a different time.

        • The ultimate goal of conservative thinking: Someone thought it in the past so we should think it now.

          Spartans thought it okay to kill unfit babies. King Leonidas thought that, and y’all liberals like King Leonidas, right? So, since all liberals like Leonidas and he believed that unfit babies should die, all liberals should believe that unfit babies should die. They don’t, so they’re HYPOCRITES!

          Please excuse the extremity of the Reductio ad absurdum, Craig, but Come on, man? It doesn’t matter what Dr. King would say right now, or what his contemporaries said then. Issues are about moral evaluation of issues, not hero worship or cults of personality.

          • Ingemar Johansson | February 24, 2012 2:16 PM at 2:16 PM |

            Extinction of his race is what MLK would have wanted.

            • Swede, what kind of mushrooms did you put in your omelet this morning? The “indigenous” black male? Do you question that statement at all? Have you taken high school math? 3.4 is considered by the good reverend as being nearly 4, but 1.97 is a pathway to extinction?

              I could go off on this ‘Tube all day long; but personally, I think you’re just trolling, Swede. Please, you can be smart when you want to. Quit being a dumbass.

              • Ingemar Johansson | February 24, 2012 2:55 PM at 2:55 PM |

                Spartans Rob? Really?

                You can’t be the only one horse laughing here.

                • Swede, there is a remarkable difference between a Reductio ad Absurdum, clearly labeled as such and you posting a video in support of a patently ridiculous idea that you, yourself, brought up.

                  If you were making a joke, Swede, you seem to be the only person who finds it funny.

                  • Ingemar Johansson | February 24, 2012 3:09 PM at 3:09 PM |

                    The whole post’s a joke.

                    • Yet you can’t actually say what is supposed to be funny about it. One has to wonder why …

                      Actually, I don’t. You would and will do anything to distract from the very clear point. Some religious nutjob is gonna waste our money because he pissed off a property owner. You don’t actually give a shit about property right; you just want your ‘values’ to be seen as important in a venue where they look pretty stupid. What do you value, Swede?

                      Do you think Holy Men should be able to break the law in service to their God? Do you think free speech trumps property rights? Do you believe that liberals should have to be defined by you? Those are simple questions. Let’s just start there, with the simple as you are.

                • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS | February 25, 2012 8:20 PM at 8:20 PM |

                  Let me give you a lesson in How the Romans acted during and after Christ dear! Ya see, if the child looked sickly they just put him in a earthen jar on the front porch…. and slave runners picked up the kids hopefully before they died, and raised them… to be slaves!

                  During Jesus’s time he would have been patently aware of that because it was considered a part of life, just about everywhere in the old country during those days! Notice how the Bible never explains that!

                  The Roman father was a powerful type, because he possessed almost unlimited powers within the family, according to later Roman law. He had the power of life and death over his children, meaning that at birth he could choose to raise them or kill them, and later he could punish them by execution. (The celebrated legendary founder of the Roman Republic, Junius Brutus, had his sons executed for disobedience.) In addition, the early Roman father owned all property in his family; his children, no matter how old, were unable to own anything in their own name as long as the father lived. A 45-year-old senator could hold the highest office of the state, the consulship, but if his father was still alive he couldn’t own a denarius’ worth of property. The father also had the power to make or break his children’s marriages. In early times, fathers ruled their households, and their authority maintained order and stability.

                  http://fathom.lib.uchicago.edu/1/777777121908/

                  You don’t know twit about what christens did in the old days do you!

          • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS | February 25, 2012 2:26 PM at 2:26 PM |

            This BS of the right wanting to take over and Usurp MLK’s vision of People of color…. “being equal in all things” started with that Lunatic Glen Beck! This is just another version of GOP’s, “Muddy the water tactics,” cause they have nothing to present the Country with as a Plan for the future… except Social Conservatism! Matt Taibbi Said it best,”

            No, it was while watching the debates last night that it finally hit me: This is justice. What we have here are chickens coming home to roost. It’s as if all of the American public’s bad habits and perverse obsessions are all coming back to haunt Republican voters in this race: The lack of attention span, the constant demand for instant gratification, the abject hunger for negativity, the utter lack of backbone or constancy (we change our loyalties at the drop of a hat, all it takes is a clever TV ad): these things are all major factors in the spiraling Republican disaster.

            Most importantly, though, the conservative passion for divisive, partisan, bomb-tossing politics is threatening to permanently cripple the Republican party. They long ago became more about pointing fingers than about ideology, and it’s finally ruining them.”

            Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/arizona-debate-conservative-chickens-come-home-to-roost-20120223#ixzz1nQnXS0LW

  5. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 24, 2012 10:28 AM at 10:28 AM |

    Holy Shit! IT’S WAR! Holy War! From now until election time! It’s all abortion all the time! And Dopey Reeburp takes an early lead by savin’ JAYsus! What’s next, a movie perhaps, Saving Private Jesus?? Works for me! A story bout how a lowly dumbass from Montana managed to SAVE the Saviour! Why not, right? Saving Private Jesus! With Dopey in the staring war! Wonder why the wackjobs haven’t thought of that yet!

      • I am not sure what you are getting at with your link, Craig. The poll has tester down by less than the margin of error for the poll. Further, I think that polling at this point is going to be pretty iffy at best.

        When Tester was elected, every poll done showed him behind – first Morrison, then Burns. Tester won.

        • Tester’s problems and Rehberg’s advantage are not about religion. Even the Dem’s PPP poll showed Tester behind: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2011/12/rehberg-still-leads-tester-by-two.html#more

          The constant drumbeat of silly attacks on Rehberg are just no substitute for a real salable record for Tester.

          • If Denny’s so great why is he not leading by 20% He’s been an elected office for much longer than Tester…..

          • Craig, it’s good to know that you receive the same GOoPer emails I get telling us that the current line of attack against Tester is that his record is worse than Dennis’ lack of any salable record at all.

            • Rob, I was making no comparison. Tester simply doesn’t have a salable record that resonates with the voters. He’s been stuck behind Rehberg for over a year in the polls. The drumbeat of silly attacks by the lefty blogs and Tester’s silly canard over 3rd party ads when he was ill prepared to forgo all out-of-state money have done nothing to help him. Even the Farm Bureau chided him on his record that if he will not stand up for Montana’s farmers over the CO2 regulations he should stand down.

              • Rob, I was making no comparison.

                Why not? Craig, making comparisons is the very fricking point of an election. To claim that you aren’t doing so doesn’t favor anything about your point at all. To be fair, many on the left maintain the same clueless stance.

                Tester simply doesn’t have a salable record that resonates with the voters.

                We’ll see.

                He’s been stuck behind Rehberg for over a year in the polls.

                Over a year? Really? And you don’t think you’re stretching the truth even a little? ~heh~

                The drumbeat of silly attacks by the lefty blogs and Tester’s silly canard over 3rd party ads when he was ill prepared to forgo all out-of-state money have done nothing to help him.

                Nor has it seemed to hurt him. What are you trying to convince me of, Craig?

                Even the Farm Bureau chided him on his record that if he will not stand up for Montana’s farmers over the CO2 regulations he should stand down.

                Now you’re just reaching into the well to drag up whatever mud you can find. We’ve had that conversation, Craig, some months ago in fact. So far, your claim has had as little an affect as “the drumbeat” of what you call silly attacks. It’s February, bud. Let’s talk again in August. Until then, please quit trying to blow smoke up my ass. I’m just not comfortable with that.

                • Rob, rest assured when it comes to blowing smoke up your rear, I wouldn’t think of competing with Mark.

                  The Montana Senate election will turn on the sliver of independents and non-committed. So far they have shown no inclination to go Tester. I believe in addition to what’s revealed in the Rasty poll there is the new Quinnipiac University Poll. Regarding independents it shows by a margin of 51-37 percent that the U.S. Supreme Court should overturn Obama’s health care law. Tester was a pivotable vote on bringing about Obamacare. I don’t see Montana’s independents looking past Tester’s record on this. Also, the Q poll shows independents support the XL pipeline by a margin of 63-24 percent. Tester’s support has been tepid at best. Certainly he hasn’t had the cajones like Schweitzer to call his fellow Dems “jackasses” who obstruct the project. He looks very ineffectual to lay the lumber to
                  protect Montana’s interest against the “in crowd.” Don’t see this working for him either. Then there is his FJRA which seems to have everyone upset in one fashion or another.

                  • Craig,

                    You seem to be married to the idea of polls in general. I think that is very short sighted – especially this year. This is why…

                    1) The number of people who have self identified as “independant” is larger this year than ever before in history. This move to the “middle” (I think that is a misrepresentation but I will get to that in a second) is unprecidented. Because of this, polling is going to be skewed since political polling is based on the idea of adversary parties.

                    2) The number of people that have simply expressed a complete disallusionment with government and politics in general is also at an alltime high. This is reflected in every “approval” poll taken in the US. By it’s very nature, this makes the subsequent polls questionable. I would venture to say that polls taken this year are probably going to be proven to be the most inaccurate polling in the last 50 years – not because the polls are invalid or have a bad methodology, but because the very nature of American Politics has changed dramatically.

                    3) I agree that the results in November will come down the moderate/independant vote but I disagree that it will be a “sliver”. I think it likely that the pollsters will be just as surprised as the pundits at the election results. In addition, I believe that voter turnout will also be HUGE factor in the elections. If one side or the other is able to motivate the voters to turn out better than the other, they will win. Conversely, if one side of the equation pisses off enough people to turn out and vote AGAINST them, that, too will factor into the results.

                    At this point in the game, it is a crap shoot trying to predict and polls are next to useless. You can continue to post all the poll results you want but I see them as meaningless.

                    4) One last point. You are trying to link Tester’s potential success/failure to his vote on the ACA. This is entirely without any shread of logic. Tester’s vote was hardly “pivotal” and at the time, the majority of Montana’s were IN FAVOR of health care reform. Your poll is probably right in that a majority of independants want to see the ACA repealed or reworked. In fact, I am one of them. That does not mean that Tester will fail because of it. That is entirely your own spin.

              • Craig, I think it is way too soon (and highly debateable) at this point to try to say what resonates with the voters and what doesn’t. Nor do I believe that many of the “attacks” against Rehberg are “silly”. Rehberg has a questionable record and it will come back to haunt him in this election. What “resonates” with the voters will become pretty apparent in November.

        • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS | February 25, 2012 6:59 PM at 6:59 PM |

          Rasmussen is a Conservative poll. The very low numbers of people coming out for GOP primaries this year, suggest polls won’t be a factor at all! almost 50 % of republican don’t like anyone in the race. If I was a republican pollster, I would already be saying I failed the base, cause I couldn’t get enough people to vote, behind a person of interest!!

          • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 25, 2012 7:06 PM at 7:06 PM |

            I’m wondering what kind of loser still has a landline phone? How are they conducting polls now days anyway? If by phone, I certainly can’t believe that they have any accuracy at all.

            • IF you had bothered to read the Rasty link you would have discovered another link to Methodology: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/about_us/methodology

              Data for Rasmussen Reports survey research is collected using an automated polling methodology. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC.

              Generally speaking, the automated survey process is identical to that of traditional, operator-assisted research firms such as Gallup, Harris, and Roper. However, automated polling systems use a single, digitally-recorded, voice to conduct the interview while traditional firms rely on phone banks, boiler rooms, and operator-assisted technology.

              For tracking surveys such as the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll or the Rasmussen Consumer Index, the automated technology insures that every respondent hears exactly the same question, from the exact same voice, asked with the exact same inflection every single time.

              All Rasmussen Reports’ survey questions are digitally recorded and fed to a calling program that determines question order, branching options, and other factors. Calls are placed to randomly-selected phone numbers through a process that insures appropriate geographic representation. Typically, calls are placed from 5 pm to 9 pm local time during the week. Saturday calls are made from 11 am to 6 pm local time and Sunday calls from 1 pm to 9 pm local time.

              To reach those who have abandoned traditional landline telephones, Rasmussen Reports uses an online survey tool to interview randomly selected participants from a demographically diverse panel.

              After the surveys are completed, the raw data is processed through a weighting program to insure that the sample reflects the overall population in terms of age, race, gender, political party, and other factors. The processing step is required because different segments of the population answer the phone in different ways. For example, women answer the phone more than men, older people are home more and answer more than younger people, and rural residents typically answer the phone more frequently than urban residents.

              For surveys of all adults, the population targets are determined by census bureau data.

              For political surveys, census bureau data provides a starting point and a series of screening questions are used to determine likely voters. The questions involve voting history, interest in the current campaign, and likely voting intentions.

              Rasmussen Reports determines its partisan weighting targets through a dynamic weighting system that takes into account the state’s voting history, national trends, and recent polling in a particular state or geographic area.

              • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS | February 25, 2012 8:05 PM at 8:05 PM |

                Still landlines! I hang up on one a week. We only use our Landline now basically for me to send bills by FAX, and for our family to call in case of emergency! The only way Rasmussen could get Cell phone #’s is through cellular phone companies, and they are not by law allowed to sell that information to anyone! Then they would have to use another methodology because certain people buy certain phones according to availability of the area!

                Your talking out your ass here Craig! the majority of land line users are over 50 years of age. I do not care what kind of bull shit Rasmussen is spewing for you to believe it!

                “Several demographic groups have high levels of smartphone adoption, including the financially well-off and well-educated, non-whites, and those under the age of 45.”

                by Aaron Smith Jul 11, 2011 http://pewinternet.org/Reports/2011/Smartphones.aspx Smartphone Adoption and Usage

                • Can Rasmussen get phone numbers from voter registration lists? I’m looking at a voter registration card. One of the fields (#(9) asks for a phone number. While many people have dropped land lines and the original voter registration phone number is no longer valid, many have moved and registered to vote in the last few years and have given their cell numbers.

                  I’ve made calls for surveys and many of the numbers are cell #’s.

                  • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS | February 25, 2012 8:31 PM at 8:31 PM |

                    That might be a possibility, but some states don’t ask for Ph # numbers either, just a show of Proper ID! I dont remember California, New York, or Arizona asking me when I lived in those states. I believe Florida didn’t ask either!

                    Each state is different, and this is the only reason I wish we had a national voting list instead! But the states might squawk it was taking away their rights…. as the red states yank away the rights of people to vote!

                    Good question, and probably legal, but then again it wouldn’t fit in with what rasmussen’s Methodology says it does!

              • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 25, 2012 8:10 PM at 8:10 PM |

                You’re right. I don’t read your links, Craig. Try writing something original for a change. BTW, what you’ve posted strikes me as a pretty imprecise way to take a poll. Guess we’ll have to wait and see on this one.

                I take my own polls based upon my connections, and I trust them better than the real ones. Dopey has never been challenged before, but this time he will be. And he has baggage, LOTS of it. His previous nastiness will not serve him well, nor will it be forgotten by the those who know him. I think that most folks view him as dumb as Cornhole Burns, but not anywhere near as likeable as the good natured buffoonish good ol’ boy Burns was.

                And I don’t think his early Teatardism will help. Hard to say though. As Moorcat already stated, polls are meaningless at this point.

                • Gee Larry, I thought you were the one wondering how they conducted polls without land lines.

                  As to the polls being meaningless, tell that to the Dem politicos and bloggers that have their pockets turned out and unable to sing Tester’s praises without growing very long noses. IF the polls like the Dems PPP poll were meaningless which also shows Rehberg ahead, there wouldn’t be this panicked obsession with Rehberg 24X7.

                  • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 25, 2012 9:34 PM at 9:34 PM |

                    I’m not panicked…in the least. This one’s in the bag for Jon. You can only polish a turd so much. Dopey’s bout as shiny as he’s gonna get. He’s lucky it’s still close.

  6. Apparently, Zastrow is no different than the fine folks of the Westboro Baptist Church.

    Slightly to the side like, Carla Axtman (who blogs at BlueOregon) was part of a panel discussion at Netroots Nation. The topic was ‘Working the Refs’, encouraging behavior from the media that better favors progressive ideals. Her focus on the panel was working with small market media. She said a lot of terrific things; among those was this: If you want to encourage or chide the presentation of information in the media, focus on the journalist, not the organization they can hide behind. To bring this point home, so to speak, this classic case of stenographic reporting was not done by The Billings Gazette. It was written by Clair Johnson, under-reporting for the Billings Gazette.

    I’m not encouraging ‘attacking’ the person, but it is her byline. She owns it unless we (in the new media) help cover her with the illusion that a company wrote the article. (Corporations are people, my friend!) There are many reasons why this article could have ignored the relevant facts brought up in this post. It is possible that this is just a journalist writing an easy script to earn a check and still make happy hour at Pug Mahones. Well then, why allow her to poorly serve her journal’s market without letting everyone know that it was Clair Johnson who did that? Perhaps Clair Johnson did her research and was overruled by editorial decision. If that’s the case, then naming her as ‘accomplice’ to such poor presentation will not embolden her to trust editorial decisions in the future. This website, by presenting the information she may have had but was nixed, might actually gain an ally in presenting the whole story.

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 25, 2012 6:47 AM at 6:47 AM |

      Excellent post. For years I have been trying to get the press to actually STATE what the Constistupid Party is all about. They are as wacky as it gets. They are part and parcel of the goofy Christian Reconstruction/Domionist movement that seeks to institute a theocracy in this country. REALLY! A real theocracy, not a fake one. Scary, scary Holy Shit!

      And yet the press continues to treat members of this group as if they were a legitimate political party. They’re not! They are NOT interested at all in democracy.

      Hell, everyone here in GF knows the founder of the C. Party, one extremely nutty Jonathon Martin. Talk about a wacko misogynist dude! He’s the best! (although he has some very bright talented daughters, no college for them! Eyookayshun AIN’T for the lady folk! they’re jus for breedin’ purposes!)

      I get so tired of trying to educate the press. They do a tremendouse disservice by not doing their job. They are complicit in the bullshit going on today. I would say that they are useless, which is bad enough. But they are actually complicit.

  7. Getting arrested is part of his strategy for getting in the press.  We can see it’s working.

    Do I read this right? That Cowgirl is “we?” A boiler room, Montana Democratic Party stirring up the rabble?

  8. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 25, 2012 6:57 AM at 6:57 AM |

    A WHAT?? Transvaginal Ultrasound??? Holy Shit! Fr. Craigorio Mooron’s side wants to be stickin’ things where they shouldn’t be stuck! SOOO, I would suggest for Fr. Mooron not a transvaginal ultrasound, but a transANAL look-a-round! While you got your head up there, padre, look around! And I think you’ll find that abortion is NO ONE’S business EXCEPT for the woman’s! Keep your head up your ass and your NOSE outta other people’s business! You don’t belong there, dude! It’s rude, arrogant, and insulting for your rightwing moorons to be fighting your most holy righteeous “war” on women. Hell, don’t ask me. Ask the ladies out there! What right does a dipshit Holy Roman Kiddy Diddler have to tell a woman what to do with HER body?

    Ya know, I think that maybe I’LL head on down the the Holy Roman Kiddy Diddler church with MY big signs and protest! Like the old song Another Brick in the Wall says, I’ll tell the bishnuts, Hey, Bishnuts, leave those kids alone! And KEEP your assHolier than thou holy roller asses OUTTA politics! STOP reading those bullshit letters every week about how if you vote for O’Bama you’re gonna go to HELL! ‘Cause remember, from long ago, the road to hell is paved with bishop skulls!

    • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS | February 25, 2012 2:33 PM at 2:33 PM |

      Good read and Follows the Monetary Debate very closely!

      • My favorite was number 4:

        Republicans actually care about deficits: Let’s put a stake in the heart of this one right now. Reagan and the two Bushes created more than 66% of the country’s debt — an amount equal to more than twice as much as all other President’s combined (including Obama). Did you hear any complaints while this record breaking debt was being wracked up? Not a word. Clinton, it’s worth remembering, had a surplus.

        • Ahh – the good ol’ myth of Clinton surplus. Perhaps, according to the US Treasury website, you can explain why the national debt has increased every year since before 1960?

          • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS | February 25, 2012 8:40 PM at 8:40 PM |

            And you proof is???????

            • From the US Treasury website:
              http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt.htm

              Click on the top two links to see what the debt was each year. Note that it is increased every year since the late 1950’s. This is caused primarily by the intergovernmental portion of national debt like “borrowing” from social security. Both parties are guilty.

              • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 26, 2012 9:55 AM at 9:55 AM |

                Save it for the reetards, pauly. This is a serious site for smart people, dude.

                • I did save it for you, Larry. This site seems to be for about 5 people to feed each others egos.

                  • Paul, that would be a bad assumption to make. Yes, the number of commentors is limited (more than 5, but…). That does not take into account those people that read the site without commenting. It is my experience that for each person commenting, there are usually 10 to 20 people reading without commenting.

                    As far as feeding egos, I am sure there is some of that. At the same time, there is also some good information to digest. Many commenting here have differing viewpoints and (sometimes) some decent discussion come out of that.

                  • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 26, 2012 1:03 PM at 1:03 PM |

                    Paul, my point is that if you really have something original to contribute, by all means impress me! But don’t junk up the site with FAUX news shit. That’s all I’m saying.

                    Look around and you’ll see plenty of original opinion from folks like me, Moorcat, Rob Kailey, Lynn, and the never shy Norma Duffy and others. And you know what? I can’t wait to read THEIR take on things, not re-hashed bullshit from the Pubert Mordoch folks. So, as I mentioned, impress us with YOUR bullshit.

                    And if you think it’s all about ego, you lose immediately! I’ll tell you a little secret. I’ve been fighting nazis and fundis for the last twenty years, dude! Many, many letters to the ed. Many, many trips to Helena on icy, dangerous roads to testify to the Lege. Many, many trips througOUT Montana to testify at all KINDS of meetings, prostests, etc. All on my OWN dime and time! So, stick that ego argument right up your ass, dude.

                    Hell, I’ve been BANNED on damn near every blog in Montana except Cowgirls and a few others. And here I can post what I want. So yeah, I post here, and ego has nothing to do with it.

                    Like the Rangers have always said, as soon as somebody comes along who does it better, we’ll GLADLY step aside!

                    But you see, Paul, at most to the places that we showed up, it was only us and maybe Jim Jensen of MEIC that was there. We learned a long time ago that there AIN’T no cavalry comin’ to the rescue! It’s us against the bad guys.

                    Here’s the deal. The rightwing is ONLY allowed a free ride in most venues because REAL lefties are banned! When it’s a fair fight, you dudes wet down both legs and slink from the field. I’ve seen it happen all the time.

                    If you doubt any of the above, simply ask guys like the hermaprodite corporate lobbyists john fitzpatrick or bill snoddy, or ANY corporate pimp. They know us well.

                    Hope this helps.

                    • I post a link to a US government website and you go off on “FAUX” news. Hard to have an intelligent debate when you go off topic so easy.

                      And I can easily see why you have been banned from most blogs. Both left and right. Why the Cowgirls put up with your BS here just says something about their credibility. You likely put up 2/3rds of all content on this blog. It should be renamed, IMO.

                    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 26, 2012 6:28 PM at 6:28 PM |

                      Um, pal, we AIN’T debatin’ the budget here, dude! That’s all. Stop trying to change the topic. Bush DESTROYED the budget. That’s all that matters. No need for senseless debate.

          • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 25, 2012 9:15 PM at 9:15 PM |

            Geez, dufus. Don’t take a dump on this site. Go elsewhere.

          • Again, Apples and Oranges. A balanced budget at the federal level can still result in an increase of the national debt for many reasons. The fact is that there have only been two presidents that have presented a balanced budget since 1960 – one a Republican (Nixon) and one a Democrat (Clinton). In the case of Nixon, Congress rejected his balanced budget and instead passed a deficit budget.

  9. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 25, 2012 12:57 PM at 12:57 PM |

    For Montanafesto: Thoughts on being “crazy”.

    https://eee.uci.edu/clients/tcthorne/Socec15/clownsway.htm

    It’s a very, very fascinating read. Every society needs’em.

  10. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 26, 2012 7:40 AM at 7:40 AM |

    Your Sunday morning dose of Holy Shit! WHO is Ric Saintscrotum TALKING to when he talks his Talibanic weird shit? Are you talking to me? Are you talking to ME? Are you TALKING TO ME?!! (My Deniro impersonation) Why no. He’s talking directly to the approximately seventy freakin’ million fundiwackmentalists out there who eat this crap up! And understand exactly what he’s saying. And he’s saying screw democracy. We want theocracy! Or theocrazy as I call it!

    But where or where is the press in all of this? Hell, these wacks ain’t hiding. (see the last Lege) If the press actually DID their freakin’ jobs, they’d include in the story above the role of the domionists in this whole attack on abortion and birth control. The Constitupid Party won’t deny that they believe this nonsense, so why not report it?

    It gets old when the blogs have to do the job of the so called Fourth Estate. Hell, I want a cut of stupor reporter Scoop Adams’s salary for doin’ his JOB for him! Come ON, Adams, Gourass, Mooseman! Do your damn JOBS or get outta the way for folks who will! REPORT the TRVTH regarding the Constistupid Party! What are you afraid of? Or are you simply to lazy to do your jobs?

    Here is a very good summary below of what’s going on. Read it, and then take a listen to the Family Values Radio station some time. It’s wacko shit 24/7, but it’s also damn good at what it does. Listen to it long enough and your brain turns to mush! It’s first class propaganda. Pure brainwashing. And now they have a station in Spanish too which is high class propaganda!

    It’s important to know what we’re dealin’ with here. The question then becomes how do you do an intervention for SEVENTY FREAKIN’ MILLION wackos? I dunno. I think we start by confronting it head on! The unbrainwashed normal religious folks (if there are any left out there) need to speak up and vigorously so.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/25/1068296/-Dominionism-and-the-Code-Words-that-only-the-select-few-can-hear?via=siderec

    • Withering fire on the earth haters will preserve the Senate and restore the House: you rock, Montana Dems.

    • Larry, I’m sure Jon Tester would be so please with your ongoing strut of religious bigotry. Did you know that he belongs to the Church of God (Anderson). http://chog.org/our-beliefs

      The Church of God (Anderson, Indiana) is a worldwide movement of people seeking to fulfill God’s desire for the church. We are committed to studying the Word of God and faithfully living it out. We are committed to being the body of Christ in spirit, word, and deed. We commit ourselves to the mission that Jesus Christ gave every believer: to make disciples of all nations. We seek to love and serve all people, beginning with those within our sphere of activity and influence.

      The Church of God movement appeared in the 1800s in the midst of the broader American Holiness Revival. The pioneers of the Church of God hoped to restore a more biblical understanding and practice of what it means to be the church.

      One of our early church songs says: “The Bible is our rule of faith and Christ alone is Lord.” That still summarizes the core belief of most Church of God people.

      • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 26, 2012 9:42 AM at 9:42 AM |

        Bigotry?? Not hardly. I call it seperation of church and STATE! Like Garfield says, where Americans, baby!

        p.s. I really had NO idea what Jon’s religious beliefs were. And guess what. That’s the way it SHOULD be in America! Hell, Nixon was a freakin’ QUAKER for God’s sake, as his evil bastard buddy Kissassenger was SLAUGHTERING two million innocent folks in one of the most peaceful countries of the world! Unlike you, I actually KNEW the Cambodian people! And I loved them! They were beautiful!

        Screw YOU and YOUR religion, dude! Oscar Romero’s gone, and he ain’t comin’ back. He was one of the last TRUE Christians!

        • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 26, 2012 9:43 AM at 9:43 AM |

          Oops! Should read “we’re Americans, baby”! I can’t write when I’m infuriated by idiocy.

          • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 26, 2012 10:01 AM at 10:01 AM |

            This is your boy, Fr. Mooron. EMBRACE him! I’m thinkin’ that if you Talibeaners hate seperation of church and state enough to throw up, you should probably move! I hear that Iran is nice this time of year! You see, padre, we elitists LUV the seperation of church and state! Luv it or LEAVE it, dude! And take Ric Saintscrotum W/ you!

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/26/santorum-church-and-state_n_1302246.html

            What a freakin’ buch-o buffoons the Pubbies have become.

            • Larry, last I checked Tester is not running against Santorum. And as to your “seperation” rant did you not catch the part of his church’s beliefs: “We commit ourselves to the mission that Jesus Christ gave every believer: to make disciples of all nations. Interesting choice of word, “nations” instead of “peoples.”

              • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 26, 2012 10:48 AM at 10:48 AM |

                Nice deflection, padre. Here, here is a list that I want you to take down to Hastings and insist that they follow….bhwhahahaaaa!

                http://old.usccb.org/movies/movieall.shtml

                You got nuthin’. The fact that NO ONE even knows what Tester’s religion is should tell you SOMETHING about his views on seperation, wouldn’t your think? Sorry, I shouldn’t insult you with the word think. My bad. You’re really grasping at straws no, dude.

                But HEY, since you brought it up, list ONE example of Tester’s religion influencing a policy decision of his? I don’t see it, but apparently YOU do!

                  • I think you miss the point, Craig. Larry (in his usual over the top way) is simply trying to point out that Tester has not made a point of his religion. Yes, I was aware that he seems to be a member of the the Church of God. I don’t care because he has never made it an issue.

                    Where Santorum, Bachmann, Perry, Romney, etc have jumped the tracks is that they all HAVE made their faith an issue. They have claimed to be directed by their faith to take stands on political issues. Sadly for them, we are a nation of LAW, not a nation of FAITH. Law dictates how we deal with each other and that is the way the constitution is written. There is suppose to be a seperation of law and faith in government that these people have forgotten. While I don’t think you have gone that far down the road, it sometimes seems that way because of the way you defend them.

                    • Moorcat, from Tester’s own site: http://www.jontester.com/

                      Jon first saw his high school sweetheart Sharla sitting in a church pew…

                      From Daily Kos:

                      Tester grew up in Chouteau County, where the rich landscape and life as a farmer’s son instilled in him a deep-rooted conviction to Montana, family, faith and hard work.

                      As to your assertion that we are not a nation of faith, George Washington said different when he established Thanksgiving Day: http://wilstar.com/holidays/wash_thanks.html

                      Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor…

                      There are very important differences that define the concepts of nation, state, and government. Nation is defined by the commonality of the people (for example Blackfeet Nation), the state is a patch of ground, and government defines the ruling bodies, processes, procedures, and laws over the patch of ground and the people it. Article XI of the Treaty of Tripoli was carefully crafted to hinge on the word “government” without mentioning “nation.”

                    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 26, 2012 1:36 PM at 1:36 PM |

                      Craig, next time extract head FROM ass before posting! As I said, luv it or LEAVE it, dude! We’re AMERICANS, baby! We LOVE sex, drinkin’, sinin’, and all MANNER of good stuff! Most of all, we LUV seperation of churchie bullshit and state! We don’t NEED assHolier than thou religeeous wackjobs like you tellin’ us how to live! Taliban much??

                    • Craig, While I applaud your google skills, the fact remains that our founding fathers went out of their way to seperate church and state. The wingnuttery of people like Palin and Bachmann aside, the truth of history supports that fact.

                      http://articles.cnn.com/2011-07-04/opinion/davis.jefferson.other.words_1_church-and-state-religious-freedom-virginia-statute?_s=PM:OPINION

                      http://nobeliefs.com/Tripoli.htm

                      I can provide about 50 more links to this but I am relatively sure you are smart enough to already know that. As a non-crhistian, it is very concerning to me to see the recent move toward a faith based political system. I have had the advantaqe to have actually visited many countries around the world, and in none of them (with the possible exception of Australia) have I felt the freedom that I fell living here. Much of that is due to our “rule of law” vs a “rule of faith”.

                      I am sure you can find all kinds of links to Tester mentioning his faith. In fact, I am sure that an enterprising google expert can find a bazillion links to any politician on the national stage mentioning his faith. What you won’t find is Tester making a big deal of it or using it to justify a position on an issue of law.

                    • Moorcat:

                      While I applaud your google skills, the fact remains that our founding fathers went out of their way to seperate church and state.

                      I don’t think we have a quarrel on that point since “state” and “nation” are not synonymous terms. I would argue we became a “nation” long before before we organized ourselves into a “state” with a ruling government with territorial boundaries. An interesting point of history is that South Carolina created a constitution in 1776 with William Henry Drayton as President. I don’t believe South Carolinians considered themselves a nation, but they certainly created the structure of a functioning state.

                    • That is a sematic argument that I am not sure where you going. Are you saying that the founding fathers created a Christian Nation but not a Christian State?

                      The bottom line is that America is not, and has never been a Christian Nation. Yes, there are religious people who live here and yes, many of them fall under the blanket of Christianity, but The United States of America was designed as a nation of law, not a nation of faith.

        • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS | February 26, 2012 1:57 PM at 1:57 PM |

          Ignore Him Larry! the Guy, been Blowing links again, is more interested in Testers Religion then his Politics… and keeps to referring to George Washington as a christian… He wasn’t! he was Deist!

          • Norma dear, either prove your statement, “keeps to referring to George Washington as a christian” or be revealed, again, as the liar you are which you have already established by responding to me after you said you wouldn’t.

            • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS | February 26, 2012 3:12 PM at 3:12 PM |

              Again I am not talking to you Craig but Larry “F” Off! This is exactly what you did to me with Moorcat last week! I see it bothers you… but when you do it it is different some how!

              Secondly, a reply button means you are also adding your 2% to a conversation… did I mention your name… or direct Questions to you first! What a vain Piece of crap you have become!

              Just because I have respect for Moorcat…. doesn’t mean I have respect for you! I dont by the way! Note that some where on your forehead so when you look in the Mirror You remind yourself of that! AND NO, I didn’t speak to you directly on this blog. … cant most of the time to others in the conversation, when you blow the links

              • Norma dear, you really are rather confused beyond help now. We have Larry Kurtz and Larry Kralj. No one I have seen here comments as “Larry “F” Off!”

                BTW, here you go again responding to me when you emphatically stated you wouldn’t. Your lies just keep piling up. You could have replied to Moorcat but you chose me.

                • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS | February 26, 2012 4:38 PM at 4:38 PM |

                  According to WHO? You? Are you a doctor? No! Just another voice on a blog!

                  Your Opinion of my sanity doesn’t matter in the least! It doesn’t you know! But not to fret brother Craig… Not when you have You!

                  I bet you record yourself, just so you can hear yourself talk! What a BS artist you have become… they don’t have awards for that you know? So I do not know why you keep practicing on people who don’t care about your BS Talent!

                  • Norma dear, your response tracks are recorded as you replied to me then as you are doing now. Denying reality is troubling. You exercised your free will and made a choice. Your obstreperous truculence is not a redeeming quality.

                    • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS | February 26, 2012 5:18 PM at 5:18 PM |

                      Ahhh Poor little Craig, Caught again trying to pull a fast one… You must I am think I am dumber then you?

                      Thats what you think isn’t it? Why isnt your charm and command of the English language working on this Woman??? Why isn’t she getting into line and listening to me??? I am Craig Moore and I am a genius!

                      Your just a jerk Craig! American Women do not listen to People they perceive as a Jerk! Get real dude!

                    • Did you forget?

                      Norma dear, either prove your statement, “keeps to referring to George Washington as a christian” or be revealed, again, as the liar you are which you have already established by responding to me after you said you wouldn’t.

            • Craig, Hun: your oblique sexist hypocritheocrisy is obstructing your view of your brain: 250 mg. Demerol self-administered with a plastic bag should do it; if not loop some bicycle brake cable over a rafter with your neck in it and jump.

  11. Greetings fellow Montanans. Was lucky to spend 1 1/2 years there sometime ago but I was never able to pay enough in scenic taxes to stay (though I did do a lot of volunteer work while I was there). Anyway, loved the state, very beautiful.

    Great blog too. This religious stuff is getting really really old but its all part of the dumbing down process, fascistic control, etc.

    R. from FL

  12. Operation Rescue is the pro life group that is pro murder. Whenever theres an abortion doctor murdered or shot you see their terrorist literature played a role.

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 26, 2012 1:10 PM at 1:10 PM |

      I remember years ago when the BOMBED the Billings planned parenthood. I can’t remember the year, but it was early on, maybe twenty-five, thirty years ago.

  13. Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS | February 26, 2012 2:15 PM at 2:15 PM |

    They dont borrow from social security dimwit! That money isn’t touched! Nice try bullshiter! that explains the debt, but not how it is paid, or what for… and then you add a fantastical story line behind it and ….Waa Laa instant Paranoia!

  14. Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS | February 26, 2012 11:36 PM at 11:36 PM |

    I love how you make an Argument and then blow the link, eventually hoping no one would argue back Craig!

    As with anything you say Craig, Your entire arguments on this Particular thread has been to argue for your Faith, as you run all over everyone else’s. Albeit a christian religious right tone to your argument! Your soul searching, for a christian soul of America

    You pointed to George Washington to prove your religious christian right History! BS ALERT! The Problem is George was not Christian But Deist! But you use him in your christian argument as if he were Christian.

    You argued for your christain soul on this thread and that of Testers(Ya so what he is christian). The good thing about Tester is he doesn’t have to speak to his faith like you do he works it everyday! Good moral citizens see this, I don’t have to be of your faith to see a good man. Tester walks the walk of a good soul… a lot more then his opponent who just talks the talk!

    These are your words as you argued for American Revisionist History:

    “As to your assertion that we are not a nation of faith, George Washington said different when he established Thanksgiving Day: http://wilstar.com/holidays/wash_thanks.html

    Let me explain what a deist is to you poor man, for it is my Philosophy as well!

    One of the many attacks on our country from the Religious Right is the claim that our country is a Christian Nation. That the country itself was founded by Christians, for Christians. However, a little research into American history will show that this statement, your statement is totally untrue. People Like You Craig, who spread this lie are known as Christian Revisionists.

    You are attempting to rewrite history, in much the same way as holocaust deniers went out of their way to write Jews didn’t die in death camps!

    Our Fore-founders, the people truly responsible for building the foundation of the United States were men of “The European Enlightenment,” not men of Christianity. They were Deists who did not believe the bible was true.

    Deists, Felt the universe had a creator, but God didn’t concern himself with the daily lives of humans, and never communicated with humans, through revelation or by sacred books(You know all that fairy tale stuff). Our Deist forefathers spoke often of God, (Nature’s God or the God of Nature, or the Providence of God), but his name wasn’t Jesus, Allah, Muhammad, or Budda.

    Lastly, George had secretaries in New York and in Washington, just as any military general and president did. It has been reported many times that they penned Proclamations and he signed his name…But the first thanksgiving day Proclamation was originally written on June 20, 1676, alas not by George Washington, but the governing council of Charlestown, Massachusetts, which held a meeting to determine how best to express thanks to God, for the good fortune that had seen their community securely established…. through proclamation! They only paid 300 dollars for Georges papers when they found them on the aution block, cause he didn’t write it just signed it!

    http://www.law.ou.edu/ushistory/thanksgiv.shtml

    Lastly, I leave you with the The 1796 Treaty with Tripoli This treaty was written under the presidency of George Washington, negotiated by George Washington, and signed under the presidency of John Adams.

    Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

    So save you right wing revisionism of our Country’s history Craig I have heard it from better BS artists then You!

    Lastly I am not you “Dear” anything! It smacks of male chauvinism, as Larry KUTZ so well could see through!

    Bile, hate and vitriol oozes out of your “Dear,” Craig. I am not your “dear” anything. Your “Dear” is condescending. It’s passive-aggressive. I’m not smiling when you say, “Dear.” When someone call me, their “Dear,” and dont even know who I am… they are usually men, annoyed about a women who they can’t control. “Dear” is hostile. There is nothing dear about “Dear” it is stifling and possessive with a noxious whiff of faux-superiority, especially when it comes from you so don’t use it!

  15. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | February 27, 2012 7:22 AM at 7:22 AM |

    What she said! The Pubbies stepped in it THIS time, BIG time! They have awoken the silenced majority! Not good, not good for them! But the Dems need to kick ass and keep kickin’ ass. If they wimp out, they’ll lose.

    http://tpzoo.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/sunday-roast-get-your-government-hands-out-of-my-vagina/

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