Schweitzer Jumps into Presidential Race

The Governor of Montana had choice words for Mitt Romney today, saying that while he will probably win Montana, he will suffer in states where Latino votes are required for victory.

Schweitzer also made a somewhat unusual point: that Romney, who has degraded and insulted hispanics during his Republican primary, will be unable to discuss his personal Mexican heritage as a way of making himself more palatable to Latino voters.

Romney’s grandfather lived in Mexico in a Mormon colony, and Romney’s father was born there. That’s right: by some interpretations (including the 14th amendment theories espoused by most Republican Montana state legislators), Mitt Romney is the son of a Mexican.

Schweitzer, in the Huffington Post article, says he believes that Romney will shy away from discussing this interesting connection to Mexico. Why? The Mormon colony that Romney’s father was born into was a Polygamy colony. Indeed, Romney has four grandfathers, but dozens of grandmothers.

We will see if Schweitzer is right. Given his personality, it’s no stretch to envision Romney trying to convince voters that he is both a Mexican and an anti-immigrant American.

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116 Comments on "Schweitzer Jumps into Presidential Race"

  1. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 19, 2012 10:41 PM at 10:41 PM |

    Holeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee SHIT! Quick! Just WHERE did I put my seer stones, vermin and sputum? I need me a revelation right about now, JUST like old Joseph SMITH had! You see, I see nuthin’ wrong with puttin’ my seer stones, vermin and sputum, into my hat and havin’ me a revelation, JUST like old Joe Smith did! In fact, in CASE you didn’t know, that’s EGGSACKLY how old joe came UP with Moronism! ‘Course, the angel Baloni helped!

    But God showed old joe many things. ONE of the most important things that God told joe was that havin’ LOTS of sex with fourteen year old girls was just heavenly! So, joe figured if it was heavenly, it MUST be divine! And hence, THAT became the most important, sacred aspect of his new, made-up-outta-whole-cloth religeeon! ‘Course, in ORDER to endlessly boink fourteen year old virgins until death do you part for parts unknown, one needs a ready SUPPLY of virgins!

    So, Joe put his seer stones BACK into his hat for ANOTHER revelation. And lo and behold he beheldest the answer. Polygamy! As many virgins as an old pervy dude could boink! Now THAT’S bout as close to heaven on earth as an old pervy dude can get! And THAT is eggackly the roots of Moronism for those that don’t know!

    ‘Course, there’s much more weirdness to it than just that too. But my offer still stands. If there is a more bizarre so-called religeeion out there, I’ll KISS YOUR ASS!

    And these Morons have a history too. They never WANTED to be part of the United States, and in essence, still do NOT consider themselves to be part of the U.S. Their politics are as weird as their religeeon!

    So, before you go votin’ for Mittens, you’d BETTER understand his beliefs! Again, get yourself a copy of Jon Krakuaer’s book Under the Banner of Heaven! It’s time to take a hard, close look at these wackos! Mittens has caused folks to start to pay attention to the most bizarre, rightwing, nazi group OUT there! There’s a REASON that joseph smith was murdered. And there’s a REASON that Mittens was welcomed by the John Birch society as a hero. And there’s a DAMNED GOOD reason that you should inform yourself with some history about these folks!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/19/brian-schweitzer-mitt-romney-polygamy_n_1439239.html

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 19, 2012 10:51 PM at 10:51 PM |

      p.s. And for the record, I would’a made a lousy Moron. For you see, one of the most onerous disciplines a young male must go through is the mission. Oh, the mission itself wouldn’t be bad. It’s just the rule. THE RULE! The ONE rule that must be followed by all male missionaries! And that is no wackin’ off during a mission! YIKES! Do you even KNOW how long a mission is???? Two years??? With NO floggingest thou righteous mule?? No WONDER Mittens looks the way he does! SPERM pressure! Two years without spankin’ the monkey will DO that to a fella! Make him demented! And even HUNGRIER for his share of them virgins!

      HEY, don’t blame me. I just report, you decide! It’s all true, folks. Check it out for yourself!

      • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 19, 2012 11:03 PM at 11:03 PM |

        Here’s how ol’ Joe Smith done it. (see below) Me, well I just put my seer stones, vermin and sputum UP my ass along with my head, and wait until I gets me a revelation! Sometimes, when I’m in this configuration, god reveals to me that I should become a republican! God’s a pretty smart Dude!

        “Joseph Smith would put the seer stone into a hat, and put his face in the hat, drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light; and in the darkness the spiritual light would shine. A piece of something resembling parchment would appear, and on that appeared the writing. One character at a time would appear, and under it was the interpretation in English. Brother Joseph would read off the English to Oliver Cowdery, who was his principal scribe, and when it was written down and repeated to Brother Joseph to see if it was correct, then it would disappear, and another character with the interpretation would appear. Thus the Book of Mormon was translated by the gift and power of God, and not by any power of man.� (David Whitmer, An Address to All Believers in Christ, Richmond, Mo.: n.p., 1887, p. 12.)”

        • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 19, 2012 11:05 PM at 11:05 PM |

          And if you believe that, you’ll ALSO believe the earth is four thousand years old!

          • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 19, 2012 11:19 PM at 11:19 PM |

            But my absolute FAVORITE part of Moronism is the part that says that you TOO can be God some day! Yes, that’s right! You see, according to Moron doctrine, if you DON’T pick your nose in public like Dopey Reeburp, just kidding. No seriously though, Morons believe that GOD, the REAL God, was once a dude! Just a regular dude like you and me! And that ONE day, we TOO will be gods too! Bizarre? Oh HELL yes! Quite!

            I mean, is that even legal? To believe such horseshit? In a theological sense? I dunno. But I do know this. When I get to be God, I’m gonna kick some ass!

          • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 20, 2012 6:32 AM at 6:32 AM |

            GREAT ARTICLE, LYNN! Another good find! If you want to understand a little bit about what I’m talking about, read the first article Lynn posted. The cat’s outta the bag now, folks. Is it wrong to inject this so called religion into the conversation? Oh HELL no! It’s all ABOUT religion! And the sooner you understand that, the better!

            Need proof? Well, just look at the bizarre writings of our own tommy burnett! He’s a Moron pioneer in his OWN right! And weird as the day is long! Their “religion” IS their politics! And it’s OUR country! So we don’t need to accept bullshit as good government!

    • Yeah where is Birther Bob decrying Romney’s candidacy? How come George Romney could run for president if he wasn’t born in the US? There is no question he was born in Mexico. Where were the birthers back then?

      • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 20, 2012 7:07 AM at 7:07 AM |

        Bob’s still walkin’ around town askin’ folks for a condom big enough to fit on his head!! bwhahahahahaaa! But you’re right, Lisa! Where’s Bob’s purity on Mittens’ lineage??? CNN, do your duty! Get Birther Bob back on to explain how Mittens is pure Murcan! Maybe someone can call Ms. Oily Tits too!!

        • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 20, 2012 7:28 AM at 7:28 AM |

          Another interesting fun fact bout Mittens. While my granddaddy was workin’ in the coal mines, Mittens granddaddy was gettin’ that hated GUBMINT money! And LOTS of it! Did YOUR granddaddy get lots of gubmint money???? Jus wonderin’.

          “Actually I think one of the most important aspects to the Mitt Romney’s Morman polygamist family story, and how they moved to Mexico to eascape American laws is that WHEN Mitt’s father returned to the US, he was GIVEN $150,000 US tax payer dollars by our Government, as sort of a reparations deal…and that MONEY (nice little nest egg in those days) is how he was able to go on and become successful and wealthy in America.

          Contrast that with Mitts story about how poor his father was…AND with Mitts’s position on “socialist programs” and helping the “poor” with tax payer dollars now.

          That’s the story I think is interesting.”

          SO, next time you hear Mittens complain bout gubmint money, ASK him bout granddaddy!!

          • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 20, 2012 7:39 AM at 7:39 AM |

            A little more on Mittens’ granddaddy! HEY, he wasn’t minin’ coal! He was a martyr!

            “The only thing I find more unsettling about the Romney family is Parley Pratt, Mitt’s grandfather helped set up a lot of the way the Mormons thought. He also was a wife stealer. He had 112 wives and wasn’t satisfied He ensnared his 12th wife who was already married with children. He took her and the children along with him. the husband of his 12th wife stabbed and killed him. But instead of the Mormons treating him as a “wife stealer”. History’s words not mine. They said he was a martyr to their faith”

            And lest we forget, DIEBOLD is a Moron company! Remember that next time you vote! You MIGHT be votin’ for Mittens!!

      • Folks, you forgot the First Rule of Birtherism. A president’s citizenship shall only be questioned if he is black.

        • Fact – George Romney ran for President in 1968 without being born on US soil.

          Fact – Barack Obama ran for President in 2008 . He was born ON US soil.

          The right wing is vulnerable here on hypocrisy and blatant racism.

  2. So let me get this straight. We got a white polygamist mormon from mexico who doesn’t know who his mother is and a mulatto muslim from kenya who doesn’t know who his father is. And these people are running for the president of our country? Or did I miss something?

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 20, 2012 6:11 AM at 6:11 AM |

      Sorry, dipshit, but you AIN’T from Red Lodge, cupcake! So lose the fake handle! You see, I KNOW Red Lodge, dude! There were Finns, and Slavs, and Italians, etc. But NO Mormon lovers, dude! Ever been to Festival of Nations Day? Well, there WEREN’T no Mormon Day, dufus! So stop you’re lying! You’re simply a rightwing dink! You look to much like a Moron when you do that, for LYING to “gentiles” is part of their church doctrine!

      Your attempt to tie Moronism to O’Bama is gonna be a big fail! It’s laffable. All it does is to FURTHER shine a light on the most BIZARRE cult out there to ever be accepted as a “religion” in this country! Moronism is MORE akin to the Church Uninversal Triumphant than ANY of the accepted tradional religions in this country!

      That’s right. We KNOW all about wackos who have revelations thinkin’ that they’re talkin’ to God! Hell, Elizabeth Claire Prophet was a prime example, dufus! She’s joe smith in drag!

      So, cupcake, don’t try to blow smoke up our asses, sweet pea! HEY, we didn’t run a Moron for prez. YOU dufi did! And so now, it’s time to have the conversation. What conversation? THE conversation, the one where we finally investigate just WHO these crazy sumbitches really are! If you didn’t WANT to have The conversation, maybe you shouldn’t’a run Mittens for prez! But too late now!

      So stop with the false equvivalencies. It makes you look more Moronic than anything else. Hell, there’s simply no way to get around it. ANY cursory investigation into Moronism indicates a bizarre cult EGGSACKLY like the CUT crew that was here in Montana! But the difference it that Moronism very much has a political element to i! THEREfore, it is fair game!

      For you see, no matter HOW crazy other Christian religions are, they attempt to help everyone! Morons are simply out to help themselves! Hell, I grew up strict Catholic, but like MOST Catholics, we knew what was bullshit about the religion and what wasn’t! We could seperate out the good stuff from the bullshit! And it was ALL out there for anyone who wanted to see it.

      Moronism is practiced in some sort of BIZARRE temple rituals where we can’t even KNOW what they’re doing! How’s THAT for not inviting scrutiny of one’s activity? Why CAN’T folks know the TRVTH about the most racist, misogynistic, made up horseshit religion OUT there? What’s to hide????

      So, fake Red Lodge dude, stick your pathetic argument up your ass! I think we’ll just have ourselves a looksee into what the Morons are all about! And if it turns out it WASN’T started by a kooky pervert who fully believed that porkin’ fourteen year old girls wasn’t a gift from god, well then, maybe it will have some merit. BUT IT WAS! You lose, cupcake!

      • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 20, 2012 6:28 AM at 6:28 AM |

        Hey, Fake Red Lodge due, HERE’S you boy joey smith!

        Smith believed God also approved of murder if it was for a good cause. He wrote in the Book of Mormon that Nephi was inspired by God (1 Nephi 4:6) to deceive and capture a servant; and then murder another man in order to secure an ancient historical record on brass plates. And in Missouri, Smith and his counselor Sidney Rigdon threatened to kill Mormon’s who disagreed with Smith’s policies and initiatives (Quinn, The Mormon Hierarchy: Origins of Power, Chapter 3, “Theocratic Beginnings,” 79-103).

        Smith re-wrote scripture to demonstrate that God had ordered the prophet Abraham to lie to protect himself and his wife Sarah from harm (Abraham 2:23-25).

        Before becoming a prophet, Smith’s chosen profession relied on deception to earn a living. He assured clients that he could see underground treasure using a magic stone in the bottom of his hat and clients paid him to locate hidden gold using this method. He never did of course. Smith’s arrest, trial and conviction in Bainbridge, NY for fraud in 1826 documented his activity. He was found guilty of glass looking. The modern term for Smith would be a con artist. (Dan Vogel, Joseph Smith: The Making of a Prophet, 82-86). Modern scams operate on a similar principle Smith used to separate people from their money

    • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS | April 20, 2012 10:19 AM at 10:19 AM |

      I Guess only a bigot+ GOP bonafides would say such a thing…. to people like you, that type of Question merits discussion??????

      ლ(ಠ_ಠლ) WTF?

  3. It will be interesting to see how much of an issue Mitt Romney’s religion becomes in this election. There is an attitude out there that says Religion is off limits. But that is illogical thinking, as religions dictate actions, heuristics, and epistemic methods.

    I hope Schweitzer stays involved with politics after his term is up. Of course he wasn’t perfect. But he was an independent thinker and got things done.

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 20, 2012 6:13 AM at 6:13 AM |

      It AIN’T a religion, dude. It’s Church Universal Triumphant shit where a wacko sick perv sticks his seer stones into his hat and sees God! Sorry, but ya DON’T get’a make up your own religion based on your own perversion! Hell, no WONDER all good Mormons are Pubbies! Works for them!!

    • Obama is stupid not to talk about religion when Republicans are working to force it into the race, into politics, and into government at every opportunity. It speaks to a persons core beliefs and values.

      • And it tells us what the person believes, stands for, etc. I think voters want and deserve to know what a president believes.

        • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 20, 2012 7:48 AM at 7:48 AM |

          How true. And really, I’ve got a nice campaign slogan for Mittens. VIRGINS FOR EVERYBODY! That’s just another revelation I had when I stuck my seer stones, vermin and sputum, up my ass!

          • there was a time not too long ago in america when there were ‘virgins for everybody’ but the liberals turned them all into little sluts.

            i bet all those things do fit up your ass, larry, with plenty of room to spare.

    • I agree with Nameless. Look if Tom Cruise were running for office, his belief in Scientology would not be off limits and Mormonism is every bit as weird as Scientology and arguably just as pernicious.

      Given its history of racism and current stance supporting homophobia, Mormonism is fair game just like the Vatican’s decades long failed attempt to hide child rapists makes Catholicism fair game.

      • I am not agreeing with ‘Name Required’ but rather the blogger Nameless Range. Yikes.

      • Don’t forget to include weird secularists like Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Saddam Hussein.
        Bigots abound around here!

        • you like the religions that chant in tongues and play with snakes i bet. hey perhaps you can tell us when is the world going to end next, I want to take a balloon loan that comes due after that date.

          • Sucker punched you with reality and you resort to personal attacks. tsk-tsk!

            • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 20, 2012 11:18 PM at 11:18 PM |

              Um, dipshit, just WHAT is the bigotry expressed here? Be specific now. It appears that the ONLY bigot here is YOU, cupcake. You hate folks who don’t believe as you do!

              • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 20, 2012 11:33 PM at 11:33 PM |

                BTW,

                “So the Romney clan was for polygamy before they were against it. Looks like that flip-flopping thing is hereditary”

                BWHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHHAHAA!

  4. Good for Schweitzer! Going on the record about Romney’s family heritage is not negative, it’s telling the truth. My guess is that while the campaign wagged their collective finger at the comments, they were cheering the fact that a popular Democratic figure like Schweitzer brought the polygamist past of the Romney family to the nation’s attention.

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 20, 2012 6:45 AM at 6:45 AM |

      And the TRVTH is something to behold! For sure! The Morons do NOT want the TRVTH about their “relgion” told, for if folks knew, they would be OUTRAGED, just as the mobs were who wacked ol’ Joseph Smith were! Their religion is an abomination! And we DON’T want to become an abomiNATION! Educate yourselves about the history of their “church”, and the con artist who put seer stones into his hat to find God! And who THOUGHT that he was a god! And we could ALL be gods some day, just like god and Jesus! And that boinkin’ little girls was heavenly! And divinely inspired! Is that weird or what?

      Ah yes. Sometimes the TRVTH is a bitch!

  5. That article is freaking amazing. Indeed, Governor, women do not like polygamy!

    • That’s the understatement of the year.

    • Michael Searalika | April 20, 2012 10:59 AM at 10:59 AM |

      The unfortunate thing is the Republican Males of this country want women back in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant, and with no health care for themselves or the baby?

      I know Real American women do not want that!

      This is why The GOP male entourage won’t care if Romney is running for prez!

      But I just don’t understand the Christian Leaders backing such a guy? Mormon faith does not believe in the holy trinity……

      You would think they would have learned from backing the Germans in WW2, or saying nothing while Gods children were shot, cooked, our buried alive. I think it is beginning to be telling, that a lot of the Christian church Patriarchs are actually more in tune with the 1% and not the 99% now. More interested in their church property then their flock. they seem closer to Romney and his ilk, then we could have imagined!

      I know this will be a harsh statement for a lot of them, but it is also why I gave up on the church morality long time ago, in favor of just the pure teachings of the man they pretend to be for!

      Lastly. I believe women are smarter, and in most things except brute strength, stronger then men. While we as a sex of America, have repetitively went to war on some the most stupid issues. Women took over our factory jobs with ease and intelligence, while they raised the kids. Women ran our farms and ranches, while we shot from foxholes. Women riveted together more weapons, to replace those that were destroyed in battle and women cared for our wounded as we rush forward to manly glory!

      Because of that they have my up-most respect, and my full belief that they are indeed a full partner in this world. I just hope they continue to stick it to us as the geniuses they are and let democrats who care about women run this country for a while.

      Long enough to get the teatard cult out of the GOP, or replace it with a better opposition party! Long enough to let those old white leaders of American apartheid die of old age!

      • The funny thing is, Micheal, is that the majority of men (Republican or not) do NOT want that (women barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen). That is a gross misrepresentation. Every poll taken on the subject shows the overwhelming majority of men from either political spectrum supporting women’s rights. Once again, you are painting an entire group of people by what a few asshats are doing and it severly weakens your argument.

        • Michael Searalika | April 20, 2012 11:18 AM at 11:18 AM |

          Then I suggest the majority of Moderate republicans that believe in such things, such as womens rights, get the “asshats away from the Microphones. and push them from the offices they were elected too. Because the asshats are for all intent, the leaders of the GOP.

          Whenever good men say nothing, and allow fools the standing to move forward with their plans…. under the eye of the law they are accomplices to the crimes itself. I do not hear enough of these reasoned voices from the GOP yet, for me to believe my argument should be tempered!

          • I can’t help what “you are hearing”. That is entirely controlled by you. The evidence is out there if you are willing to see it.

            As far as standing up for what is “right”, I think I have done a fair share of that. I can hardly be seen as “saying nothing and allow[ing} fools the standing to move forward”.

  6. Few have the backbone to say what Schweitzer is able to say, sexist beliefs do matter this presidential election- they have become the key platform of the republican party! Romney’s beliefs an background are a problem, because he comes from an upbringing in which women are relived inferior.

  7. Gov. Schweitzer has embarrassed the state with his bigoted opinion. I regret my votes and support in the past.

  8. Just out of curiosity I counted. 18 of 34 comments are yours, and of the 18, not one ounce of content.

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 20, 2012 9:35 AM at 9:35 AM |
      • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 20, 2012 9:56 AM at 9:56 AM |

        p.s. And Buttinski, even though I’m a freakin’ PAGAN who thinks quite highly of himself, even I don’t think I’m gonna be a god some day like GOD himself! That’s just f*cking WEIRD, dude! And I don’t think that God/Creator/Allah/Jehovah or whatever was a MAN at one time, like the Morons believe! THAT’S f*cking heretical in ANY man’s religion! Sorry, dufus, but please point out where I erred in any of the above comments. You see, you’re just an idiot. If YOU know something about the Morons that I don’t, POST it, dufus! Buttisnki, you’re quite uneducated, and it shows!

        • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 20, 2012 10:02 AM at 10:02 AM |

          OUCH! Right in the ol’ lugnuts! Hey, the mormon cat is outta the bag! And well it SHOULD be! For you see, there’s a REASON that the prez of the U.S. had his canons trained right on Brigham Young’s house, for he told ol’ Briggy that if hostilities DID break out between the Morons and the U.S. HE would be the first casualty! And then, it was time for another revelation of course!! bhwhahahahahahaaa!

          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/20/martin-bashir-mitt-romney_n_1440129.html

        • Setting aside one religion against all of the others and calling it weird, and using the word “moron” against it, is deeply insulting. I do not know why people are hooked on irrational belief systems, but when you look at them all together, you’ll find them all to be based on pagan rituals. Christianity, for instance, is mere sun worship. Astrology (the number 12) plays a large role. The seasons, the equinoxes and solstice, growing seasons, fertility – all of modern religion has pagan ties. Mormons are more severe in the indoctrination process, which is creepy. But all religion is irrational, so picking out one for ridicule and not all of them is nonsense.

    • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS | April 20, 2012 10:15 AM at 10:15 AM |

      Wow! Mark Counted Larry comments but not Larry’s content? Figures! Not to worry Larry, he never was supposed to understand you, he cant in his obsessional mind. The is no room for anything in there, but his own Maddness.

  9. Ingemar Johannson | April 20, 2012 10:47 AM at 10:47 AM |

    Those Mexican Mormons.

    They BBQ dogs?

  10. Say what you will. I cannot vote for a President whose religion believes women are property and second class citizens. sure, mormons denounced polygamy when it became illegal so that Utah could become a state. but they still believe that polygamy will be practiced in “heaven.” If that’s true, it sounds more like hell to me. No thanks.

    • Did you know that President Obama’s father Barack Obama, Sr. had multiple wifes?
      Barack Obama Sr. grew up in Nyang’oma Kogelo. At 18, he married a young woman named Kezia in a tribal ceremony. They had four children, two of them after he returned to Kenya from the United States. He never divorced Kezia, who now lives in Bracknell, England…

      On February 2, 1961, Obama married a fellow student, Ann Dunham in Maui, Hawaii. She did not know that he already had a wife in Kenya.[citation needed] Their son, Barack Obama II, was born on August 4, 1961. Two years later, Obama was accepted at Harvard for graduate study. He moved to Massachusetts, unable to afford to take his wife and son with him. He and Dunham divorced in 1963, divorce filed in Honolulu, Hawaii in January 1964, and he only saw his son again once, at age 10. He received the AM degree from Harvard in 1965.

      At Harvard, he met an American-born teacher named Ruth Nidesand who would follow him to Kenya when he returned after completing his Masters degree. She eventually became his third wife and had two children with him before they divorced…

  11. I have the same problem with this argument that I have with the idea of religion being used in politics at all. About the only real issue I have with Romney being Mormon is his “evangelical” stances on issues to court the evangelical vote. Religion has no place in politics. I thought we saw enough of that last year in our own legislature.

    • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS | April 20, 2012 11:08 AM at 11:08 AM |

      I gotta believe Kennedy’s argument was the best on the separation of church and state myself. State who you are and go on.

  12. Schwietzer hit the nail on the head. But here is my biggest problem with Mittens Romney, he is fake, aka a phoney. I dont care about his religion, I dont care that he is rich, but I do care that he is as fake as a spray on tan. Here is why I say that, when he was governor of Massachussetts he was a moderate, in fact he even passed the first healthcare reform bill in the nation. But now that he is running for President he has gone sharply to the right, and now critizes Obama for passing practically the same bill on the federal level. Now dont get me wrong I had problems with Obama’s healthcare bill, and I think he spent way too much political capital on the dam thing, but still for Romney to go after him for it is the height of hypocracy. Plus I feel the Mitt Romney has no connection to the common people of either America or Montana, Im not say Obama has that connection either but still Romney is about as out of touch as the man on the moon.

  13. first of all the bill the healthcare bill currently is not the bill signed by then Governor Romney. Working with a 70% Democratic legislature, there was much compromise on bothe sides to solve a problem. The Minute Mitt was out the door, the legislature changed every compromise position they had taken – look it up.
    Also, some of you might like to know Obama’s great grandfather was a polygamist – his father also had 2 wives at the same time! Check it out!!!

  14. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 21, 2012 7:07 AM at 7:07 AM |

    BINGO! Still wanna vote for Mittens? Very, very good read.

    http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n2226.cfm

    This is the actual TRVTH. If you DON’T understand what Moronism is all about, you really need to educate yourself. It AIN’T religion. It’s political! Look, this is freakin’ AMERICA for God’s sake! If some dumb shit puts his seer stones INto a hat, sees god, and god tells him that boinkin’ fourteen year old girls is the way to go, of COURSE we’re gonna call BULLSHIT on it! If you don’t, YOU are a freakin’ pervert too!

    And if this SAME person declares himself to be a god, of COURSE we’re gonna say your an asshole!

    And if this SAME person starts busting up printing presses because they don’t print his truth, of COURSE folks are gonna get mad and wack the dude! Which they did!

    This whole bullshit about them doing away with polygamy is pure bullshit! It simply went underground. There are STILL thousands of practicing polygamists, as reported in the Deseret News. For polygamy was and still IS a central tenet of their “church”! Actually, THE most important! Can’t become a god without LOTS of young nookie! The MINUTE it becomes legal again, they will ALL be boinkin’ young girls again, JUST like Mitt’s ancestors!

    Sorry to be so blunt, but you DON’T get’ta make UP your own religion and get a free pass in MY America, EVEN if you put your gawddamned SEER stones up your ASS for a relevation! I think we’re a little smarter than that here in America. At least I hope so!

    This is EXACTLY what the founding fathers feared. They KNEW that they lived in very superstitious times. They KNEW that there were perverted assholes out there with their seer stones and perversions! And they KNEW that they must be kept in check! How anyone could fall for this seer stone horseshit is beyond me!!

    READ, people, READ! This AIN’T JFK and his Catholicism! This is CRAZY bullshit in which perversion is next to godliness! Hell, do it for the KIDS! More specifically, the young girls! Who have suffered untold abuse in the Moron religion!

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 21, 2012 7:15 AM at 7:15 AM |

      And to the guv, a personal note. THANK YOU for having the courage to do what NO ONE else will do, call bullshit on bullshit!

      HEY, time to educate to populace. SO, instead of teaching the book Jonny Has Two Mommies, I suggest that we teach the kiddies a book entitled Mittens Has Twenty GRANNIES!

      bhwhahahahahahahahahhahaha!

  15. The Washington Post reported:
    “The line of polygamists in Obama’s family can be traced back generations in western Kenya, where it was an accepted practice within the Luo (pronounced LOO-oh) tribe.” His great-grandfather, Obama Opiyo, had five wives, including two who were sisters. His grandfather, Hussein Onyango, had at least four wives, one of whom, Akumu, gave birth to the president’s father, Barack Obama” before fleeing her abusive husband. Obama Sr. was already married when he left Kenya to study at the University of Hawaii, where he married again. His American wife-to-be, Stanley Ann Dunham, was not yet 18 and unaware of his marital situation when she became pregnant with his namesake son in 1961.

    It is also well known that Democrat Senator from New Mexico, Tom Udall, and his cousin, Senator Mark Udall (D) from Colorado, come from a long line of polygamists. But that was never an issue because they are Democrats.
    Mens Journal reported:
    In the Udall family, politics stretches back generations. Mark’s and Tom’s great-grandfather, David King Udall, was a pioneer Arizonan and a Mormon polygamist who was sent to federal prison (on testimony of an ancestor of Mitt Romney’s, family lore has it). He was pardoned by President Grover Cleveland, then tossed back in jail. This time, it was Barry Goldwater’s grandfather who got him off the hook.
    It’s only ever an issue if the politician is Republican.

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 21, 2012 3:31 PM at 3:31 PM |

      Um, COUPLE’A points here, grammy. First, Obama is NOT a Mormon! And Mittens is! Polygamy in Africa is NOT in any way relevant to America! Or did you not notice.

      Secondly, Moronism is all ABOUT polygamy and porkin’ young girls! The “religion” is BASED upon it! Or are you not familiar with it? Hell, got joseph smith in BIG trouble too!

      And thirdly, dufus, name any OTHER religion in the world in which its believers believe that they will become gods and things turmed out well! Come ON, dipshit! Show us what you got! Do you REALLY agree that Jesus was a MAN at one time? And that GOD was a man at one time? And that YOU will be a god some day?

      Sorry, dufus, but that is some BIZARRO shit in ANYone’s world! AND, it happens to be blasephemy! But it is EXACTLY what the Morons believe!

      You see, I can think of only ONE other dude who thought he was god. Charles Manson. NOW, dink, if YOU can think of a situation where folks thought they were gods that turned out well, well, let’s HEAR it! BTW, the Nazis made up THEIR own religion too!

      So, dingaling, answer the questions! This AIN’T about Obama. It’s about the craziest sumbitches OUT there, the Morons! They AIN’T gods! They’re SICKO perverts! Jesus was NOT a man at one time! And GOD was not a man at one time!

      Does this help, cupcake? Put it all in perspective for us, if you can! Start with how in the freakin’ HELL anyone could think that they would be a god like God some day?? And how porkin’ fourteen year old girls is divine?

      And THEN, you can explain to us just WHY these Morons have to do everything in secret? And THEN, how have the Morons helped ANYONE except other Morons? Real christian of them, eh? Hell, every OTHER Christian religion in the world helps everyone, NOT just other believers like themselves!

      And then, cite ANY historical evidence for their bizarre account of history in the U.S.! Sorry, But Jesus was NOT here! It’s all simply baloney from a made up angel named Baloni! Hell, ex-Morons will tell you all about it! It’s a cult, nothing more, nothing less!

      Your turn, dingaling!

      • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 21, 2012 4:11 PM at 4:11 PM |

        Here’s ol’ Pervert hisself, Joseph Smith, in his OWN words written by Lucy Walker, one of his wives! Now, if THIS isn’t some weird shit, I don’t know what is! Please, you Moron lovers out there, dispute this! HOW is this from God???

        “In the year 1842 President Joseph Smith sought an interview with me, and said, ‘I have a message for you, I have been commanded of God to take another wife, and you are the woman.’ … He asked me if I believed him to be a Prophet of God. … He fully Explained to me the principle of plural or celestial marriage … that it would prove an everlasting blessing to my father’s house. … [Joseph encouraged her to pray] ‘that the grave would kindly receive me that I might find rest on the bosom of my dear [recently deceased] mother … Why Should I be chosen from among thy daughters, Father I am only a child in years and experience.’ And thus I prayed in the agony of my soul. … [The marriage] was not a love matter—at least on my part it was not, but simply the giving up of myself as a sacrifice to establish that grand and glorious principle that God had revealed to the world”

        • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 21, 2012 4:12 PM at 4:12 PM |

          That ol’ Joe. I gotta admit. He was TRICKY pervert! Usin’ god to get laid! Why didn’t I think of that when I was single?????

          • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 21, 2012 5:35 PM at 5:35 PM |

            Shorter joseph smith: Wanna go to heaven, little girl??

            bwhahhahahahahahahahahaha!

            Sorry, joe, but ONLY a complet dumbass, or a gullible fourteen year old would fall for THAT horse shit! Even if you throw in a couple’a thees and thous! Bullshit is bullshit, and it’s damn HARD to bullshit a bullshitter! Any dude who’s every tried to pick up a girl knows that! (but MOST guys have more deceny than to try to screw underage girls!!)

  16. The issue is that Romney won’t be able to use his connection to Mexico to go after the GOP Holy Grail, the hispanic vote, because then polygamy would come up.

  17. Larry – you are so angry – are you just as upset with Harry Reid?

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 21, 2012 7:14 PM at 7:14 PM |

      He’s not running for president! And all my criticisms apply to ALL Morons! And angry, yes! For you see, I do NOT like scam artists and scam religions, ESPECIALLY those that prey on underage girls! Now, I’ve laid out lots of challenges for the defenders of Moronism. Feel free to answer them. See the Max Butts’s challenge above.

      Moronism is an INSULT to the great religions of the world, especially Christianity. I consider it to be a cult and an abomination. And hell, I’m not even a very good Christian!

      And it’s dangerous, for it has NO place in the politics of this country! You have obviously never studied this psuedo religion, or you would understand my outrage.

  18. with the power of Harry Reid, you must also be afraid!

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 22, 2012 7:35 AM at 7:35 AM |

      Jeebus, woman. Are you REALLY this dense? Look, I have ONLY written probably fifty comments on Moronism. Can you REALLY not respond to even one of them with a coherent, well-written rebuttal? That is really kinda sad and pathetic but very much indicative of a Teatard mind! Let me give you a clue. Life consists of MORE than one sentence rebuttals!

      Now, if YOU think that voMITT’s religion is of no consequence, explain in some detail using the tenets of his faith as I have done as to just WHY you think he’s the best candidate! Or just go away and sulk over the fact that you aren’t smart enough to participate in this forum!

      You see, grammy, judging from your writing, it appears that you are an idiot. Please prove me wrong. First, explain the admirable qualities of Moronism that YOU believe will be beneficial to our country! I don’t think that you’ve thought this one through. No wait! I take that back. I don’t think you’ve ever THOUGHT!

      • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 22, 2012 7:41 AM at 7:41 AM |

        Or maybe you really BELIEVE that if one does not wack off, one will some day become a GOD!! Explain just HOW one achieves the moral purity to ascend to godship by NOT wacking off! Start there, cupcake! Me, personally, I believe that if you WANT to see what happens to a dude who represses his sexuality, look atMITT! That is NOT a normal lookin’ dude! Sexual repression will DO that to a guy!!!

        And cupcake, do you REALLY agree that some day you’re gonna be a god like GOD??? Weird, very weird shit, lady. No defend it! Hell, that goofy shit offends and scares the shit outta ME, a pagan in good standing! For you see, when you start to thinkin’ that you’re a god, it’s Charles MANSON time!!! Or maybe David Koresh, another good Moron dude who felt that screwin’ little girls made his a god!!

        Your turn, sweetie!!

        • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 22, 2012 7:59 AM at 7:59 AM |

          Here’s ANOTHER dude who had the gift of prophecy, just like joey smith! Ya see, Gamey b., when ya get to thinkin’ that you’re a god, it all goes off the rails, dudette! THAT’S why the Moron religion is so hated and reviled! Them dumshits have ASSumed for themselves shit that just ain’t there! And makes no sense! Do we REALLY want a dude who thinks he’s god runnin’ the country? I think we can do better! And we have. Hell, even IF O’Bama were a Muslim, THAT is better than a lily white non-wacker-offer who THINKS that if he don’t wack off, he’ll be GOD some day! Doncha think??

          In 1983 David Koresh began claiming the gift of prophecy. It is speculated[by whom?] that Koresh had a sexual relationship with Lois Roden, the prophetess and leader of the sect who was then 76 years old, eventually claiming that God had chosen him to father a child with her, who would be the Chosen One.[1] In 1983, Roden allowed Koresh to begin teaching his own message which caused controversy in the group. Lois Roden’s son George Roden intended to be the group’s next leader and considered Koresh an interloper. When Koresh announced that God had instructed him to marry Rachel Jones (who then added Koresh to her name), there was a short period of calm at Mount Carmel, but it proved only temporary. In the ensuing power struggle, George Roden, claiming to have the support of the majority of the group, forced Koresh and his group off the property at gunpoint. Disturbed by the events and the move away from the philosophy of the community’s founders, a further splinter group led by Charles Joseph Pace moved out of Mount Carmel and set up home in Gadsden, Alabama.

          • Is it your goal to drive everyone away except Norma? Is this some elaborate dating strategy?

            • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 22, 2012 9:52 AM at 9:52 AM |

              Um, Buttinki, wax profound, dude! Where do YOU stand on Moronism, dude? I don’t think you’re well-read enough to have an opinion. Your learning stopped a loong time ago, dude. And is shows. Try to intelliegently explain your view of Moronism. Don’t just fart.

              • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 22, 2012 10:41 AM at 10:41 AM |

                p.s. ONCE folks like you wake up and discover that the dude in the White House belongs to a cult, well THEN it’s a little late, doncha think? All I’m tryin’ to do is to make people STOP and understand just WHO the Morons are, and WHAT their history is, and WHAT they believe! And you know what? I have YET to have anyone correct one of my posts! For I am able to substantiate it all!

                HEY, bottom line? When Mittens decided to run, all bets were off! For you see, the Moron religion is all ABOUT governance, and NOTHING about actual religion!…..when you get right down to it! Joey smith wanted to establish HIS perverted vision for the country on the REST of us! And sorry bout that, but I AIN’T that into perverts with seer stones! BTW, joey’s vision of America is NOT very American! It’s John BIRCH America! Hell, why to you think the Morons and the Birchers are in BED together???

                Wanna see what Moron Murca would look like? Well, just read Tommy Burnutz! He’ll tell ya! And it AIN’T purty! Methinks that Tommy’s magic underwear is just a wee bit to tight!

              • I regard Mormonism as an interesting laboratory study, as we are witnessing the birth of a religious sect in real time. All religion is based on myth and superstition, however.

                On moronism, I’ll yield to the expert. What’s your view, inside looking out?

              • By the way, what’s your take on a faith that celebrates by indulging in cannibalistic rituals and is ruled by a man who dresses in girly clothes and wears a penis-shaped hat?

                • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 22, 2012 12:20 PM at 12:20 PM |

                  Simple. Joey smith AIN’T Jesus! Nor a Jesus-like character. Does this help? Like Ghandi, I like your Jesus, just not your Christians! I do no lke Joey smith in the least.

                • There is no contemporary evidence of the existence of Jesus. The first accounts do to appear until 100 years after his supposed death. the Romans were keeping contemporary records in Jerusalem, but not a word …

                  Joseph Smith, at least, a fraud and con artist for sure … At least we know he existed. The Mormons are one stap ahead in being founded by a person who really existed.

                  • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 22, 2012 12:53 PM at 12:53 PM |

                    Is that one of your relevations from the angel Baloni, or maybe from the prophet Ether?

                    bwhahahahahhaha!

                    Too funny!

                    You see, Buttinski, while joey smith was tryin’ to come up with original names for all his bullshit, he used many names that he’d heard before. Thus, we have some very funny and bizarre examples! Heelarious really.

                    BTW, you’re wrong. The existence of Jesus has really never been seriously doubted by serious historians. The preponderance of evidence is there.

            • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS | April 22, 2012 10:46 AM at 10:46 AM |

              Ummmmm Shut up Mark and let Larry alone! He is allowed to proffer evidence here, something you never do!

              Larry and I get along, Something you also cannot do! AND stop bringing up my name in your conversations!

  19. Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS | April 21, 2012 11:25 PM at 11:25 PM |

    Harry? Hell I have meet him a couple of times, nothing wrong with the guy. He’s sane. Something is wrong with you RW guys though, but why waste my breath telling people who are tools, anything productive! Keep watching FOX news, if you dont want to know the truth…..

  20. perhaps Larry if you would stop swearig, stop calling people names, and quit babblig perhaps others would interact with you better. Perhaps you did not realize Harry Reid is a morman and exactly the same as all your screaming about Mitt. Maybe you need a hobby.

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 22, 2012 12:30 PM at 12:30 PM |

      Um, gamey, perhaps you’re an idiot! And still irrelevant. Now, what was your highest grade level achieved again? You see, YOU are the only one here who hasn’t a clue. I’m well aware of who the prominent Americans are who are Moron!

      Now, YOUR challenge again, sweetie, is to LIST all those cultures and societies throughOUT history who considered themselves to be gods, and who were ALSO successful! I’ll give you a clue, cupcake. There AIN’T any!….unless you include charles manson and david koresh!

      bhwhahahahahahaahahahahahaha!

      Your turn, gamey.

  21. Larry, i hate to agree with Mark, but your lack of courtesy is becoming very tiresome.

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers | April 22, 2012 2:25 PM at 2:25 PM |

      Ya know what I get tired of? Folks who simply won’t debate. I happen to think that’s quite rude. Now, gamey thinks Mitt is qualified. I don’t happen to think so based upon his religion, and I have said so as best I could. No one has yet contradicted anything I’ve written. It’s all fact. I think it’s a legitimate topic of discussion. Sorry that you don’t. End of story.

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