Posted: April 25, 2012 at 7:42 am

Heavenly Polygamy

A few right-wingers came out with predictable fake outrage last week, when Brian Schweitzer suggested that Mitt Romney might be squeamish about talking openly about his Mexican heritage due to the presence of polygamists in his line of ancestors.

The talking point fashioned by Montana Republicans is that Schweitzer was being bigoted.  Schweitzer has said he was simply stating a political reality, which is that Romney will stay away from the topic.

The line goes “You can’t choose your ancestors.” This is true, which is why Romney should not shy away from talking openly about having polygamist ancestors, just as Obama has spoken, and written, extensively on his own ancestors including his polygamous father.

But Romney will probably shy away from it, and will thus prove Schweitzer’s point.

And alas, the Mormon church is not entirely clean on this subject of polygamy.  For though the Church forbids polygamy on earth, polygamy is still permitted, and encouraged, in heaven.

The LDS church teaches that in heaven, a polygamous existence is awaiting all men who were married multiple times on earth. So let’s say a widower gets married upon the death of his first wife.  When this man and his second wife are all dead, there is a threesome awaiting him in heaven.  He will be married, in the afterlife, to both wives, forever.

Do women get the same “sweet” deal?  Heavens no.  Heavenly Mormon Polygamy is reserved only for men.

So, this is a small but crucial example of a Mormon tenet that is both sexist and supportive of polygamy.  To be sure, all of the major religions, or portions of them, have sexism which needs to be rooted out.  Catholic priests are a male-only club, and the Catholic church condemns women who want to decide for themselves when and whether to have children.   Certain branches of Judaism likewise forbid women from becoming rabbis, and also force women to sit in the back of the synagogue in a walled-off room during services. And Islam treats women as inferior in many respects, including the practice of  “honor killings” of female relatives who disgrace the family by having premarital sex. These practices aren’t relegated to some tiny tribal sects either: 90 perent of women in modern Egypt were victims of genital mutilation.

So it’s not like Mormonism is breaking any new ground in these matters. But, it is a small but pertinent fact: When it outlawed polygamy on earth, the LDS Church kept it legal in heaven.

143 comments

  2. Ingemar Johansson

    Amazing. We can delve into several generations of Mitt’s background and fringe offshoots of his faith but we can’t vet the current occupant of the White House. Things we have yet to find.

    1. Occidental College records and transcripts — Not released
    2. Columbia University records and transcripts — Not released
    3. Columbia Thesis paper — ‘not available’
    4. Harvard University records and transcripts — Not released
    5. Medical records — Not released
    6. Illinois State Senate schedule — ‘not available’
    7. Illinois State Senate records — ‘not available’
    8. Law practice client list — Not released
    9. Certified Copy of Original Birth certificate — Not released
    10. Harvard Law Review articles published — None
    11. University of Chicago scholarly articles — None
    12. Record of Baptism — Not released or ‘not available’

        • Ingemar Johansson

          None means this. From your link.

          “Obama may well be the only Editor of a major law review who has never published a single article. For those in the legal profession, this is absolutely amazing.”

          • Lynn

            I Know as a Fox Watching birther you are saying he was not there at all- since he was in Kenya till 6 months before the elction.

            also from the article:

            McConnell told Politico, “A frequent problem with student editors is that they try to turn an article into something they want it to be. It was striking that Obama didn’t do that. He tried to make it better from my point of view.” McConnell was impressed enough to urge the University of Chicago Law School to seek Obama out as an academic prospect.

            (While the Review’s contents are protected by U.S. copyright law and aren’t available for free online, Politico is providing all the front covers — which include each issue’s table of contents — and a representative masthead from Obama’s term as president.)

            • Ingemar Johansson

              I’m not saying anything about his BC.

              I’m saying these documents would never go missing if it was a Republican.

              Including looking generations back in time.

              • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS

                Ingemar, My question to you is why didn’t you ask this of the Bushes, Nixon, Ford, McCain??????? Why didn’t you toss Romney out on his ear the minute you found out he wasn’t born in the USA, but Mexico????? Obama was indeed born in Hawaii, and it is a state of our nation.

                Where’s all the proof on you guys vetting your past presidents correctly when you couldn’t get the likes of PALIN strait???? In fact your last two Presidental Candidates were not born in America! Whats up with that?????

                The only reason you are asking all this from Obama is because he is Black! Own it, you are bigoted. My three kids are exactly like Obama, Half White. With the exception of their Job applications, no one asks the Boys if they are from a Islamic Country! No one asks my kids if they are here illegally. Unless it is asked by crusty old farts Like you, who believe there are commies under every rock, and Drossa’s being built on every corner!

                I have meet your kind and I am not impressed in the least!

                • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS

                  Prove to me these Republican Candidates and Past presidents were vetted, cause you cannot! The very fact that you are allowing a man born in Mexico to be your sides champion, shows me you are very selective in what, “A native born American” is!

                  Republican thinking:

                  Is he white? ☑ then he is an American!

  3. Havre Voter

    Uh, this is the current version of the Church of Jeaus Christ of Latter Day Saints. They believe today, in 2012, that polygamy is the law in heaven.

    • larry kurtz

      Montana has just seen a marked decline in its peace index: source. My guess? Entitlement, racism, and paranoia just like yours.

      • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS

        Another nugget of interesting newsworthy crap is we as a state got an “F” in teaching children Civil rights History in our classes.

        No wonder the right, has a grasp of the inner fasist in them…. we don’t teach enough history of the state, or the country!

        http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/publications/teaching-the-movement!

        Generally speaking, the farther away from the South—and the smaller the African-American population—the less attention paid to the civil rights movement. Sixteen states do not require any instruction whatsoever about the movement. In another 19, coverage is minimal. In almost all states, there is tremendous room for improvement.

        Pretty scary I gotta tell you for women and People of Color, race, religion in this country!

        • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

          Interesting to note that the Mormons STILL have on their books that the penalty for miscegenation is DEATH! Yep. Never had a revelation bout THAT one. Oh sure, you can be a “priest” in their religion. Just don’t try to marry a white girl though! True story.

          • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

            Nope. No brown sugar for THESE dudes! The penalty for that is DEATH! These are Mittens’s people!

            Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr. (1805-1844):

            “Had I anything to do with the negro, I would confine them by strict law to their own species…”

            - Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr., January 2, 1845, History of the Church, v. 5, pp. 21-218

            Prophet Brigham Young (1801 -1877):

            “Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so. The nations of the earth have transgressed every law that God has given, they have changed the ordinances and broken every covenant made with the fathers, and they are like a hungry man that dreameth that he eateth, and he awaketh and behold he is empty.”

            - Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 10, p. 110

            Prophet George Albert Smith (1870 – 1951):

            “Your ideas, as we understand them, appear to contemplate the intermarriage of the Negro and white races, a concept which has heretofore been most repugnant to most normal-minded people from the ancient patriarchs until now…. there is a growing tendency, particularly among some educators, as it manifests itself in this area, toward the breaking down of race barriers in the matter of intermarriage between whites and blacks, but it does not have the sanction of the Church and is contrary to Church doctrine.”

            - LDS First Presidency (George Albert Smith), letter to Virgil H. Sponberg (critic of the anti-black ban), May 5, 1947, quoted in Lester E. Bush, Mormonism’s Negro Doctrine: An Historical Overview, p. 42

            Apostle Mark E. Peterson (1900 – 1984):

            “We must not inter-marry with the Negro. Why? If I were to marry a Negro woman and have children by her, my children would oil be cursed as to the priesthood. Do I want my children cursed as to the priesthood? If there is one drop of Negro blood in my children, as I have read to you, they receive the curse. There isn’t any argument, therefore, as to inter-marriage with the Negro, is there?”

            - Apostle Mark E. Peterson, “Race Problems – As They Effect the Church,” Address given at the Convention of Teachers of Religion on the College Level, delivered at BYU, August 27, 1954

            • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS

              Kinda figures that in Utah and Idaho they got “F” in civil rights History as well!

    • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS

      Propaganda troll for the Right!

      “BE AFAID BE VERY AFRAID, then vote for me, Ron Paul”

  6. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

    STAND BY FOR MY LATEST REVELATION! Yes. I done had me ANOTHER revelation from God! You see, I was confused ’bout all the polyGAMY stuff, so I got out my seer stones, warmed’em UP a bit, and SHOVED them suckers RIGHT up my ass! YIKES! And it didn’t take long, and God spoke! And He GAVE me the missing 116 pages of the Book of Moron, the pages that joey smith lost! And here is the first part! Direct from God hisself!

    Chap. I. Thus I sayeth to you, I createdeth a man, Adam, and it was good. But Adam was lonely, and hornieth, and spanketh the monkey too much, and thus verily got bored.

    So I toldeth Adam, I will maketh you a mate, so that you will not hath to spanketh thy monkey so verily much, for to spanketh too much will causeth a man to go blind, and unable to see the heavenly light, and groweth hair on thy palms. And being hornieth all the time despoileth the Garden of Eden.

    Then I causeth Adam to falleth into a deep slumber. And I tooketh from him a rib, and fashoineth a woman to be Adam’s companion. Adam awoketh and was pleased, VERY pleased, for now, he could KNOW a Eve, and that was good. VERY good! SO good in fact that Adan knoweth Eve a lot, a WHOLE lot! Adam discovereth that knowing Eve was TRULY the Garden of Eden!

    But, alas Adam desireth even MORE knoweth, for knoweth was very good! And Adam longeth to knoweth MORE than Eve longed to knoweth. Thus, I hath to create another Eve for Adam. And that was good. But Adam still longeth for even more knoweth! Seems that he couldn’t knoweth enough, or get enough knoweth, ESPECIALLY knoweth from young Eves! So I created twenty Eves for Adam, some quite young, and finally, Adam knoweth enough! And just before fallingeth into a deep slumber, said, God, this is GOOD, Dude! NOW this is Eden, and I nevereth want to leaveth this place! Keep the Eves a’coming!

    Then, Adam proclaimed that this new thing be called marriage. And hence and thus forth, marriage be NOT between Adam and Steve, but Adam and Eve, and Eve I, and Eve II, and Eve III, and Eve IV, and Eve V, etc., etc.

    And thus, this holy writ is NOT holy shit, but the word of God as told to joe smith! Holy writ, not holy shit, from joseph smith!

    THEN, the revelation was suddenly over, and I removed the seer stones, Vermin and Sputum, and quickly copied down the verses so as not to forget! So, there you have it. Straight from the Big Guy himself! Marriage is between Adam and Eve, and Eve, and Eve, and Eve, and Eve!

    HEY, believe it or not, but MY revelation is just as credible as the one that old joe himself had!

      • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS

        Yeah Igmar the problem is Romney was against it before he was for it. The only reason he is doing it now is because the Young Voter is Has put Obama Double digits above Your Candidate! Why is it you keep forgetting about other You Tube Moments for Romney! Selective Much????

      • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

        How DOES one get the peculiar diction that Mittens has? MeTHINKS that maybe his magic UNDERwear may be a bit too tight! Or was it the fact that his church wouldn’t allow him to wack OFF during his two year mission?? HEY, I wouldn’t know! I never TRIED not wacking off for two years! Have YOU, Ingy? Sumthin’ REAL unnatural ’bout that!

        BWHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

        And thas why I would’a made a lousy Moron!

  10. Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS

    Found another trinket of Jefferson Speak……. I just love this Guy

    This for the trolls!

    “Frown into silence all disorganizing movements.” – Thomas Jefferson 1809

  11. Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS

    Sorry still reading the wit of Jefferson on Education: “By that part of our plan which prescribes the selection of the youths of genius from among the classes of the poor, we hope to avail the State of those talents which nature has sown as liberally among the poor as the rich, but which perish without use, if not sought for and cultivated.”

    Thomas Jefferson FORD ED., iii,254. (1782.)

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

      “To be able to work at and for what one most want to do well should be gospel in our democracy”! Frank Lloyd Wright

      My kinda Christian, the GOOD kind! And of course he’s right!

      http://www.harvardsquarelibrary.org/unitarians/wright.html

      p.s. And on a side note, while listening to my daily dose of hate christian radio on AFR 91.5 here in GF, of WHOM should I happen to hear? Well, none other than Dopey Reeburp! Yes THAT Dopey Reeburp! Seems that somewhere, somehow, the TSA made a little girl cry at the airport during a search. SO, who rides to the rescue? Dopey! What a douche bag! Now Dopey is the christofascist favorite for a made up incidenent somewhere! What a douce bag!

    • Rainy Applebee

      Ha ha. Blew you out with that Jefferson quote, didn’t I? Tough finding out your hero thought blacks were seriously inferior to whites, isn’t it?

      You’re a sorry little coward.

      – Max Bucks

      • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS

        ~Sigh~

        No Max you didn’t blow me out of the water. It just goes to show others, you have no source of History. Jefferson owned blacks because it was legal 200 years ago. Lincoln wouldn’t have freed slaves either if the south wasn’t as goofy as it was about going to war on economics.

        It just goes to show you regular American people educated on the issues made their legislature, and senate change the laws for the better. That is what democracy is indeed all about, change!

        Sorry your still living in the past, but at least you have outed yourself and proved what a good spokesman for the right you really are……

        Thanks for that! You and Your alter ego Mark!

  12. Farmboy

    Ok even though I totally disagree with Mitt Romney’s politcs, and there is absolutly no way in hell I would vote for him at this juncture, still I believe it is wrong to bring a person’s religion, into this political race. I have a problem with my right wing Christian friends who claim Obama is a socialist, illegal alien, and a follower of islam. John Kennedy when he ran for office it was the first and only time a Catholic had been elected President, and he had to fight off claims that he was going to be in the back pocket of the Pope. And yet he served this country with distiction as a sailor in WWII, as a United States Senator from Massachusetts and as President. Either way I dont like the mixture of religion and politics that is what the right does.

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

      Farmboy, take a listen to christian hate radio some time. It’s ALL politics! No religion at all. They make no bones about it. They want a theocracy. And I happen to think that that is un-American. AFT 91.5 here in Great Falls.

      And BTW, Mittens religion is VERY political! The Morons want to take over the world! Well, sorry bout that. They do NOT believe in seperation of church and state. Never have, never will. Ever been to Utah?

      And the abuse of young girls is documented and legendary! I can’t abide that. Moronism is a cult started by a failed con man who turned his talents to religion. Educate yourself about them. It’s all out there. Start with a book entitled Under the Banner of Heaven by John Krakuaer.

      When religion becomes politics, it’s becomes fair game! The Nazis invented their own religion too lest we forget.

      • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

        BTW, we examine closely ALL religions! Why should the Morons be exempt? And why should they try to scrub their history? You see, the Morons shroud themselves in mystery and secrecy, JUST like any good cult! We can ONLY know them from their history, and from those who have left the church. In fact, they are closely allied with another cult, the Masons. Joe Smith was very knowledgeable about the Masons, and designed his religion around them!

        Here’s Mr. Ann Romney on his love of the peasants!

    • Rob Kailey

      Since Larry Kralj is using a carpet-bombing technique, it’s easy to lose the point in all the smoke and dust. But beyond the detritus, the point still remains. This is that point.

      A person’s religious beliefs inform the actions they will take to best fulfill the moral ideal of that belief. You are right, Farmboy. The dogma or practice doesn’t and shouldn’t mean much. But the fundamental belief should mean a great deal and is a worthy topic of review when picking a leader.

      The Mormon church is an apocalyptic one. They believe that the end of days will come and they are chosen to see it through. That is not dogma or kissing a ring at an appropriate time. It is fundamental to what they believe will be the necessary future of mankind. (Certainly you haven’t missed the fact that Mormons are encouraged/required to stockpile food and provisions?) To foster such end, the LDS church is among the most socialist organizations ever witnessed on this planet, but only, and by prophesy, among their own. To Mormon belief, the rest of us are fodder, to be converts, serfs or the damned. This informs precisely how they, in general, deal with us a people.

      Now, imagine a person raised with those beliefs, according to the guidelines those beliefs require, having access to the codes, laws and power that could launch a global conflict. Does Mittens have any reason to avoid such a thing? Not really. That’s not a religious test, but rather an examination of what a potential leader finds to be morally right or morally wrong. It is in Romney’s interest to have no journalist ask him “hey, given that your church believes these things to be a value, do you think nuclear war, global economic meltdown or environmental catastrophe are things you would avoid as an American President?” No one will ask him that, because religion is supposed to be ‘off limits’ to discussion. I’m sorry, Farmboy, but that’s bullshit. I want that question answered before this guy takes the reins of my country.

      • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

        All true. (except for the detritus part of course) But also I think that people MUST understand that if they truly want to understand guys like Glen Beck, they must understand the Moron religion. For Beck is simply channeling Cleon Skousen, the wacky author of the Five Thousand Year Leap. Scary, scary stuff. Why? Whi is it scary?

        Because Skousen was RIGHT IN THERE while the Kockh brothers’s daddy was founding the John Bitch Society! It’s all one big happy family! And now, we have the Big Kockhs running the country!

        So, yes, I think it’s vitally important to know that Mittens is an admitted admirer of Skousen, a founder of the John Bitch Society. It’s all part of the rise of the rightwing fascists.

  13. Mark Tokarski

    And so it is settled, and until Nov ember, there will be no discussion of issues of significance. Instead we’ll be talking polygamy.

    That’s what happens when money decides who runs.

    • Mark Tokarski

      I don’t think so. If I were to make a list of those things that they agree on and which therefore cannot be talked about (wars, weapons budgets, tax cuts for the wealthy, Wall Street abuses unpunished, Bush crimes unpunished, attacks on civil liberties, attacks on Social Security, new free trade agreements, support for tyrants, no EFCA, private mandate without a public option, presidential authority to assassinate Americans … you’d better start talking how many wives Romney’s ancestors had because otherwise, you got nuthin’.

      And don’t you smart ass me, Kralzy – either talk turkey or STFU.

      • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

        Smartass? No, never, dude. For you see, I always considered you to be more of a DUMBASS! Why don’t you and Butts get a room? bwhahahahahahahahaa!

        • Mark Tokarski

          Larry? Larry? C’mon, Karlzy – I asked for substance, that’s all. I put up a whole list of issues that cannot be talked about because of bipartisan agreement. I said that’s why you jackasses are all about polygamy sometime in the distant past. You got nuthin’ in the present. Nuthin’.

          Here’s another betrayal in the works – Obama is going to sign off on CISPA.

          But you gotta et him reelected, because Romney will be worse. Right?

          Pathetic. You are all pathetic.

        • Mark Tokarski

          Larry …. Laaaaaaaarrrrrrrry …. Where did you go, Larry. Laaarrrrry? Why don’t you answer, Larry Karlzy? Why?

      • Rob Kailey

        Shorter Tokarski:

        “Don’t you give me your sass, little man. Say what I want or get off my lawn!”

        And this jackass thinks I’m an authoritarian …

        • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

          Don’t forget. The guv on Letterman tonight! I’m sure that Buttinski will be tuned in!

        • Mark Tokarski

          I was trying to get Kralzy to say on topic for once Monty. You are an authoritarian, I’m not. The list of attributes is quite long, forcing others to bend to your will only one. Need for group validation, one of your prime weaknesses, surely must play a featured role, but I’d have to look it up. Oddly, submission to authority is also an attribute which you exhibit in spades with Democrats.

          Don’t mess with me, jackass. You get your fingers burned.

            • Rob Kailey

              As has been pointed out to you innumerable times, your angst is self-caused. You change the subject to discuss your delusions, and then wail that no one wants to play with you.

            • Mark Tokarski

              The last time you changed the subject and attacked me you paid a dear price, your sociopathy and the disgusting Monty attack exposed once again.

              Here I am talking at the resort to discussion of ancient polygamy as a substitute for discourse on real issues. I maintain that the reason is bipartisan agreement on major issues, leaving nothing to talk about ut such nonsense.

              You avoided discussion of that and instead, along with your butt buddy Kralzy launched a personal attack against me.

              Troll.

              • Moorcat

                What you fail to get, Mark, is that to some people, Romney’s belief system IS an important topic. It just doesn’t happen to be the topic you want to talk about. Troll.

                • Mark Tokarski

                  If it’s all you got, then you don’t got much. Doesn’t it bother you that the two parties are in harmony on virtually every issue, leaving you with polygamy?

                  Wrapping a silly putty mind around the only issue available … Priceless.

                  • Rob Kailey

                    Tokarski’s puffery:

                    If it’s all you got, then you don’t got much.

                    Tokarski’s stupidity:

                    Doesn’t it bother you that the two parties are in harmony on virtually every issue, leaving you with polygamy?

                    Toakrski’s failure: he wants everyone else to discuss his issues in the manner he wants to discuss them. We’ve all pretty much told him to go to hell, but he persists. Kinda cute, ain’t it?

                    • Mark Tokarski

                      Oh, I agree you’re unreachable, but that is not my fault.

                      Are you feeling better Rod, now that you’re surrounded by people who think like you? Isn’t that your thing – group validation? You’re kind of a loser, you know?

                    • Michael Searalika

                      Webster dictionary is asking for new words and descriptions to consider for its next edition, I submitted this:

                      Mark Buttarski: A Painus in the Ainus, someone that causes trouble; a source of unhappiness for Montana commentators everywhere.

                      Related words:

                      nuisance – (law) a broad legal concept including anyone that disturbs the reasonable use of your intelligence or endangers life and health or is offensive

                      irritant, dimwit, pendejo – someone that causes irritation and annoyance; “wish this dimwit would leave us alone”

                      Synonyms:

                      Douche-bag, troll, botheration, pain in the neck, Tool of the right, infliction, annoyance, pain in the ass, halfwit, Plague, etc.

                  • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS

                    Dont let the door hit you in the Buttkiss on your way out Mark! How many times does everyone need to keep saying that for you to finally leave!

                    I think Goldberg is Tolarski now also, just like part of the Maxines, The man is a running Joke!

  14. MaxBucks

    [No hope for education here:]

    Comparing [blacks] by their faculties of memory, reason, and imagination, it appears to me,
    that in memory they are equal to the whites; in reason much inferior, as I think one [black] could
    scarcely be found capable of tracing and comprehending the investigations of Euclid; and that in
    imagination they are dull, tasteless, and anomalous.

    – Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia (1781, pub. 1784)

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

      You got THAT right, Maxine! There is NO difference between 1874 and 1978, when the Morons FINALLY accepted black people as people! That time frame seem about right to you…….bwhhahahahahahaa!

      You lose again, Butts!

        • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

          And Maxine, they Morons STILL haven’t recieved that revelation stating that miscegenation is NOT punishable by DEATH on the spot! Seems that TJ’s amorous encounters with the brown sugar ladies would have precluded HIM from such a decree!

          You lose AGAIN, Butts! But do stick around, cupcake. You’re a very nice foil!

  15. Are you kidding me?

    Thank goodness those Black women were available to sleep with the great Thomas Jefferson…..And there relatives all “remembered”

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

      No, Butts isn’t kidding. He’s simply a moron! But hey, join the fun! He’s a glutton for punishment! Gives validation to his pathetic existence. They beat me, therefore I am!

    • Max Bucks Master of History

      Actually, Jefferson said monkeys liked black women: “…as uniformly as is the preference of the orangutan for the black women over those of his own species.” (Thomas Jefferson, op. cit.)

      • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

        Max Butts, MasterDebator, or simply Masterbator for short! bhwwhhahahahaaa!
        Is there REALLY anything more despicable than a little anonymous racist pissant? I think not. You’re pitiful, dude. You’re the dude that used to yell N*GGER at a black dude walking down the street while speeding away in your car! Yeah, I seen ya. I’m always impressed by your courage! bhwhahahahahahaaa! But HEY, whatever it takes to make you feel like a man I guess. I find it pitiful.

  16. Rob Kailey

    For the record, I’ve asked before and gotten no answer, so I’ll ask again. How many religions can anyone identify that believe and preach sexual slavery in the afterlife? I’ll even spot one of them: radical Islam. And the other would be …

    This is not a rhetorical question. These are the values which inform the supplicants of such religious beliefs concerning the importance of their fellow humans. Conservatives love to wail and whine about Islam’s denigration of women, but of Mitten’s values they say …

  17. NamelessRange

    To me, Polygamy is a long way down on the list of things to be concerned about within the LDS religion. That at least, is something real. It is a perpetual concern of mine that nearly all of our leaders talk to cosmic, infinite traversing, disembodied minds for advice or answers. But it is a human condition, and nearly everything we find acceptable, or unacceptable, is found in terms of thresholds. As far as my personal thresholds go, LDS is insanely off the charts, and polygamy is a fairly tame concept relative to some of the other bat-shit crazy, real-world contradicting truth claims its followers adhere to. As much of the world looks on in horror.

  18. Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS

    OMG the Tea Party Right in Montana is finally and clearly speaking in bigoted, racist tones for all the world to see…. The ugly is finally showing its true side?

    Isn’t it interesting how small these people have become, when they show their true selves. Too bad Michael’s on his way to Germany to serve this country a second time. He’d want to know he is protecting good folk in Montana, that want to spit on his color of skin when he gets home. Protecting your freedom of speech is so important to him, I know he will overlook your shortcomings… which are many!

  19. democrat-leftist-420

    When I read what Schweitzer had said it is very apparent that he is simply being his arrogant self and this is not shocking! It is also very apparent he and I would guess 98% of all democrats and leftists haven’t done their homework either. So let me just tell you a little about President Barrack Hussein Obama’s family tree since we all seem to be so interested! I don’t even have to speculate because the President tells us himself in his autobiography, Dreams from My Father about his family past.

    So who was Barack Obama Sr.? He was a Luo tribesman who grew up in Kenya and studied at Harvard. He was a polygamist who had, over the course of his lifetime, four wives and eight children. One of his sons, Mark Obama, has accused him of abuse and wife-beating. He was also a regular drunk driver who got into numerous accidents, killing a man in one and causing his own legs to be amputated due to injury in another. In 1982 he got drunk at a bar in Nairobi and drove into a tree, killing himself.

    This is pretty powerful stuff, but it gets even better! At first glance, in Obama Jr.’s autobiography, it is a little hard for the reader to understand his depth of allegiance to his father. His dad was after all a complete jerk! He married Kezia in Kenya and had two children with her. Before the second child was born, he abandoned his family to come to America. There he met Barrack Obama’s mother Ann, got her pregnant, and then married her, but without telling her he was already married. When Obama was two, his father abandoned him and his mother to go to Harvard; there he moved in with a teacher, Ruth Nidesand. Eventually he took Nidesand back to Africa, married her, and had two children with her. But he also rejoined his African wife, Kezia, and had two more children with her. Later in life he took up with still another women, Jael Otieno, and impregnated her!!! The two of them planned to get married after the child was born, but the marriage never took place.

    By the time he was done, Barrack Sr. managed a GRAND TOTAL OF 3 WIVES, ONE WIFE-TO-BE, AND EIGHT CHILDREN BETWEEN THE 3. He was a terrible husband and a worse father; he heglected virtually all his offspring, and one of his sons has accused him of domestic violence. In the words of Mark Ndesandjo, who is the son of Obama Sr. and Nidesand, “I remember situations when I was growing up, and there would be a light coming from our living room, and I could hear thuds and screams, and my father’s voice and my mother shouting. I remember one night when she ran out into the street and she didn’t know where to go!”

    Obama Sr. was a smoker as is Obama Jr. He even earned the nickname “double double” at Harvard due to his horrible drinking problem…he eventually developed liver disease as well! To make things worse, he was a reckless driver who often drove under the influence, getting into several accidents in which he KILLED at least one other person before finally getting into a fatal accident himself!

    So Schweitzer…why do you not tell this story?

  20. democraticleftist420

    Rob…why so say this is bullshit when it is written by Barrack Hussein Obama himself…do you not beleive your own beloved president?

    • Rob Kailey

      1) You’re not Democratic.
      2) You’re not a leftist.
      3) Only a wingnut would think that Obama is ‘my own beloved President’.

      You’re full of bullshit, troll.

    • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS

      Troll, Our president wasn’t raised by Obama senior, he was raised by his mother, and his white granparents.

      “I only remember my father for one month my whole life, when I was 10. And it wasn’t until much later in life that I realized, like, he gave me my first basketball and it was shortly thereafter that I became this basketball fanatic. And he took me to my first jazz concert and it was sort of shortly thereafter that I became really interested in jazz and music. So what it makes you realize how much of an impact [even if it's only a month] that they have on you. But I think probably the most important thing was his absence I think contributed to me really wanting to be a good dad, you know? Because I think not having him there made me say to myself “you know what I want to make sure my girls feel like they’ve got somebody they can rely on.”

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb5D71aQAoo&t=5m30s

      Romney, on the other hand was raised by his Father and his mother, and knew his grandparents on both sides! The Difference is Romney was a part of his dads life. Barack was only influenced by his mothers side of life.

      I know you right wing trolls want to attribute something to our President he never had, or saw in his life. His Dad was never a part of his growing up!

      The real problem therefore is your bias! which has nothing to do with the truth!

      • Craig Moore

        Actually, Obama was raised by his grandparents. His mother was away in Indonesia during his formative years. His grandmother was a bank president. I believe his grandparents sent him to private school through high school in Hawaii. Then he attended private higher education on the mainland. That’s how he connected to the “common man.”

        • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

          Um, Craig, a leetle exercise for ya. How can one be black in America and NOT be connected to the common man? Can you do it? Give it your best shot! Maybe he’s part of our black aristocracy, sort of a black Bush! Ya never know! A sort of black country clubber! A black skull and boneser! You may be on to sumthin’ here!……..or just on sumthin’. But for the record, please expound.

        • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS

          That would be nice if it were true but he only lived with his grandparents for a summer, of course his mom and him moved in with them a couple of times while he was growing up, But I am not counting that!

          Punahou School is christian prep college, and your right it was private, but anyone could go there. It was originally a school for missionaries children! That kinda blows a whole in The Obama was a Muslim theory, but who is keeping track of that tidbit of truth on the right!

            • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

              What bullshit, Craig. Your insinuation is plainly that because of his background of supposed privilige, O’Bama canNOT be connectec to the common man. And so now I really must ask, just WHAT is the “common man”? And WHAT are your credentials that make YOU an expert on the common man?

              If it’s money, dude, I’ll have to tell ya that I’m MUCH more of an expert than you! And I think O’Bama connects to me quite well! In fact, MUCH better than a dude from a religion founded by a pervert on child molestation as its central tenet!

              • Craig Moore

                Larry, you know zilch about my background. For you to make a comparison is pure fancy. The “common man” has a shared life experience with a large majority of other people. Attending private schools and universities is just not one of those experiences. He was never in a position of want or need thanks to his wealthy grandparents, who I commend for parenting him. They had the means and provided the best which is what loving parents do.

                As to me I have performed many hard labor jobs from dumping 55 gallon drums of garbage into a truck, to ditch digging, to pipelining, to cleaning barns, to painting, to roofing and such. I even bartended til 2am after putting in a day shift. I worked hard to pay for college from about age 11.

                Larry, since you fancy yourself as an expert, just what common man jobs did Obama have growing up through college that you share a common bond with him?

                • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

                  “The “common man” has a shared life experience with a large majority of other people.”

                  Oh, you mean like FDR??

                  No, Craig, the common man has a shared HUMANITY AND DECENY with other people, a quality TOTALLY lacking in the Pubbies! There are only two kinds of Pubbies, rich ones and suckers!

                • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS

                  Craig Obama’s grandparents weren’t rich they sent him to a private christian middle missionary school, the same as My folks did me, for a year as well. They were upper middle class, making about 50,000 a year or so, but not Rich, for Hawaii.

                  Anyone could go to that Punahou School! Just like any Catholic parochial school, and they were considered private too. Apparently, you think going to a christian school means rich????

                  What makes you think, Obama’s grandparents were rich? The middle class at that time could afford just about anything compared to now.

                  In 1960 a new house cost $12,700.00 and by 1969 was $15,500.00
                  In 1960 the average income per year was $5,315.00 and by 1969 was $8,540.00
                  In 1960 a gallon of gas was 25 cents and by 1969 was 35 cents
                  In 1960 the average cost of new car was $2,600.00 and by 1969 was $3,270.00

                  So with both his Granparents working, they were upper middle class dude, regular folks! the Common American couple!

                  • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS

                    And the 50,000 is a guesstimate only, since his grandmother was a vice president of bank of Hawaii. which only had about 5 banks in that state at the time. a lot like stockman bank or state bank here! She probably made far less… cause women were still considered second class citizens in this country till the mid 1960′s

            • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS

              From about 14 on till he got out of Christian High school! 3 years later. Is this some big deal for you? The fact remains he wasn’t with his father! This was the original argument from the troll and, this is not the sticking point for you republicans to lay your head on is it?

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_and_career_of_Barack_Obama

              The wikipedia version was put together by his team in 2008. And no one messes with it but them! Try again!

  21. democraticleftist420

    :Rob and all other left-wing-nut-jobs we need a president who will create jobs, thus, alleviating the increased human suffering caused by the current administration?

    Barack Obama is the most antibusiness president in a generation, perhaps in American history. Thanks to him the era of big government is back. Obama runs up taxpayer debt not in the billions but in the trillions. He has expanded the federal government’s control over home mortgages, investment banking, health care, autos and energy. The Weekly Standard summarizes Obama’s approach as omnipotence at home, impotence abroad.

    The President’s actions are so bizarre that they mystify his critics and supporters alike. Consider this headline from the Aug. 18, 2009 issue of the Wall Street Journal: “Obama Underwrites Offshore Drilling.” Did you read that correctly? You did. The Administration supports offshore drilling–but drilling off the shores of Brazil. With Obama’s backing, the U.S. Export-Import Bank offered $2 billion in loans and guarantees to Brazil’s state-owned oil company Petrobras to finance exploration in the Santos Basin near Rio de Janeiro–not so the oil ends up in the U.S. He is funding Brazilian exploration so that the oil can stay in Brazil.

    More strange behavior: Obama’s June 15, 2010 speech in response to the Gulf oil spill focused not on cleanup strategies but rather on the fact that Americans “consume more than 20% of the world’s oil but have less than 2% of the world’s resources.” Obama railed on about “America’s century-long addiction to fossil fuels.” What does any of this have to do with the oil spill? Would the calamity have been less of a problem if America consumed a mere 10% of the world’s resources?

    The oddities go on and on. Obama’s Administration has declared that even banks that want to repay their bailout money may be refused permission to do so. Only after the Obama team cleared a bank through the Fed’s “stress test” was it eligible to give taxpayers their money back. Even then, declared Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, the Administration might force banks to keep the money.

    The President continues to push for stimulus even though hundreds of billions of dollars in such funds seem to have done little. The unemployment rate when Obama took office in January 2009 was 7.7%; now it is 9.5%. Yet he wants to spend even more and is determined to foist the entire bill on Americans making $250,000 a year or more. The rich, Obama insists, aren’t paying their “fair share.” This by itself seems odd given that the top 1% of Americans pay 40% of all federal income taxes; the next 9% of income earners pay another 30%. So the top 10% pays 70% of the taxes; the bottom 40% pays close to nothing. This does indeed seem unfair–to the rich.

    Obama’s foreign policy is no less strange. He supports a $100 million mosque scheduled to be built near the site where terrorists in the name of Islam brought down the World Trade Center. Obama’s rationale, that “our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakable,” seems utterly irrelevant to the issue of why the proposed Cordoba House should be constructed at Ground Zero.

    Recently the London Times reported that the Obama Administration supported the conditional release of Abdel Baset al-Megrahi, the Lockerbie bomber convicted in connection with the deaths of 270 people, mostly Americans. This was an eye-opener because when Scotland released Megrahi from prison and sent him home to Libya in August 2009, the Obama Administration publicly and appropriately complained. The Times, however, obtained a letter the Obama Administration sent to Scotland a week before the event in which it said that releasing Megrahi on “compassionate grounds” was acceptable as long as he was kept in Scotland and would be “far preferable” to sending him back to Libya. Scottish officials interpreted this to mean that U.S. objections to Megrahi’s release were “half-hearted.” They released him to his home country, where he lives today as a free man.

    One more anomaly: A few months ago nasa Chief Charles Bolden announced that from now on the primary mission of America’s space agency would be to improve relations with the Muslim world. Come again? Bolden said he got the word directly from the President. “He wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science and math and engineering.” Bolden added that the International Space Station was a model for nasa’s future, since it was not just a U.S. operation but included the Russians and the Chinese. Obama’s redirection of the agency caused consternation among former astronauts like Neil Armstrong and John Glenn, and even among the President’s supporters: Most people think of nasa’s job as one of landing on the moon and Mars and exploring other faraway destinations. Sure, we are for Islamic self-esteem, but what on earth was Obama up to here?

    Theories abound to explain the President’s goals and actions. Critics in the business community–including some Obama voters who now have buyer’s remorse–tend to focus on two main themes. The first is that Obama is clueless about business. The second is that Obama is a socialist–not an out-and-out Marxist, but something of a European-style socialist, with a penchant for leveling and government redistribution.

    These theories aren’t wrong so much as they are inadequate. Even if they could account for Obama’s domestic policy, they cannot explain his foreign policy. The real problem with Obama is worse–much worse. But we have been blinded to his real agenda because, across the political spectrum, we all seek to fit him into some version of American history. In the process, we ignore Obama’s own history. Here is a man who spent his formative years–the first 17 years of his life–off the American mainland, in Hawaii, Indonesia and Pakistan, with multiple subsequent journeys to Africa.

    A good way to discern what motivates Obama is to ask a simple question: What is his dream? Is it the American dream? Is it Martin Luther King’s dream? Or something else?

    It is certainly not the American dream as conceived by the founders. They believed the nation was a “new order for the ages.” A half-century later Alexis de Tocqueville wrote of America as creating “a distinct species of mankind.” This is known as American exceptionalism. But when asked at a 2009 press conference whether he believed in this ideal, Obama said no. America, he suggested, is no more unique or exceptional than Britain or Greece or any other country.

    Perhaps, then, Obama shares Martin Luther King’s dream of a color-blind society. The President has benefited from that dream; he campaigned as a nonracial candidate, and many Americans voted for him because he represents the color-blind ideal. Even so, King’s dream is not Obama’s: The President never champions the idea of color-blindness or race-neutrality. This inaction is not merely tactical; the race issue simply isn’t what drives Obama.

    What then is Obama’s dream? We don’t have to speculate because the President tells us himself in his autobiography, Dreams from My Father. According to Obama, his dream is his father’s dream. Notice that his title is not Dreams of My Father but rather Dreams from My Father. Obama isn’t writing about his father’s dreams; he is writing about the dreams he received from his POLYGAMIST father.

  22. Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS

    27 months of straight job growth under President Obama! Your a joke troll!

  23. democraticleftist420

    Your right…he wasn’t raised by his father, but he is living out his fathers dreams! He make that clear in his autobiography! Again, I suggest you read it!

    Obama Sr. was an economist, and in 1965 he published an important article in the East Africa Journal called “Problems Facing Our Socialism.” Obama Sr. wasn’t a doctrinaire socialist; rather, he saw state appropriation of wealth as a necessary means to achieve the anticolonial objective of taking resources away from the foreign looters and restoring them to the people of Africa. For Obama Sr. this was an issue of national autonomy. “Is it the African who owns this country? If he does, then why should he not control the economic means of growth in this country?”

    As he put it, “We need to eliminate power structures that have been built through excessive accumulation so that not only a few individuals shall control a vast magnitude of resources as is the case now.” The senior Obama proposed that the state confiscate private land and raise taxes with no upper limit. In fact, he insisted that “theoretically there is nothing that can stop the government from taxing 100% of income so long as the people get benefits from the government commensurate with their income which is taxed.”

    Remarkably, President Obama, who knows his father’s history very well, has never mentioned his father’s article. Even more remarkably, there has been virtually no reporting on a document that seems directly relevant to what the junior Obama is doing in the White House.

    While the senior Obama called for Africa to free itself from the neocolonial influence of Europe and specifically Britain, he knew when he came to America in 1959 that the global balance of power was shifting. Even then, he recognized what has become a new tenet of anticolonialist ideology: Today’s neocolonial leader is not Europe but America. As the late Palestinian scholar Edward Said–who was one of Obama’s teachers at Columbia University–wrote in Culture and Imperialism, “The United States has replaced the earlier great empires and is the dominant outside force.”

    From the anticolonial perspective, American imperialism is on a rampage. For a while, U.S. power was checked by the Soviet Union, but since the end of the Cold War, America has been the sole superpower. Moreover, 9/11 provided the occasion for America to invade and occupy two countries, Iraq and Afghanistan, and also to seek political and economic domination in the same way the French and the British empires once did. So in the anticolonial view, America is now the rogue elephant that subjugates and tramples the people of the world.

    It may seem incredible to suggest that the anticolonial ideology of Barack Obama Sr. is espoused by his son, the President of the United States. That is what I am saying. From a very young age and through his formative years, Obama learned to see America as a force for global domination and destruction. He came to view America’s military as an instrument of neocolonial occupation. He adopted his father’s position that capitalism and free markets are code words for economic plunder. Obama grew to perceive the rich as an oppressive class, a kind of neocolonial power within America. In his worldview, profits are a measure of how effectively you have ripped off the rest of society, and America’s power in the world is a measure of how selfishly it consumes the globe’s resources and how ruthlessly it bullies and dominates the rest of the planet.

    For Obama, the solutions are simple. He must work to wring the neocolonialism out of America and the West. And here is where our anticolonial understanding of Obama really takes off, because it provides a vital key to explaining not only his major policy actions but also the little details that no other theory can adequately account for.

    Why support oil drilling off the coast of Brazil but not in America? Obama believes that the West uses a disproportionate share of the world’s energy resources, so he wants neocolonial America to have less and the former colonized countries to have more. More broadly, his proposal for carbon taxes has little to do with whether the planet is getting warmer or colder; it is simply a way to penalize, and therefore reduce, America’s carbon consumption. Both as a U.S. Senator and in his speech, as President, to the United Nations, Obama has proposed that the West massively subsidize energy production in the developing world.

    • larry kurtz

      Today is the anniversary of the signing of the Fort Laramie Treaty. Attorney Mario Gonzales has been litigating the “Black Hills Claim” for most of his life.

      He contends that the commission charged to make peace with tribes inserted language into the document signed in 1868 that Red Cloud had neither seen nor agreed to in negotiations.

      Watch earth hater icon, Ronald Reagan, roundly inserting his foot into his mouth during a 1988 speech before a Moscow State University audience.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lutYGxMWeA&feature=player_embedded

  24. democraticleftist420

    Thanks for the name calling, it is very typical of the left….it signifies that those making the accusation do not have reasoned responses to their critics, so they switch to namecalling rather than responding to their arguments.

    • Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

      Thanks for the PLAGIARISM, cupcake! You’re obviously an uneducated moron who has learned to cut and paste with ease! NOT the most sound debating technique, dude! It’s pretty clear that you’re a lightweight who is unable to think critically.

      Now, for the record, buttercup, HOW much of the nonsense you’ve posted is original? In other words, your own? None I’d say. But you really should credit whomever you’re plagiarizing, dufus. And THAT makes you a perfect rightwing moron!

  25. democraticleftist420

    So by rejecting the socialist formula (that is ever so popular by right-wing-nut-jobs), Obama has shown no intention to nationalize the investment banks or the health sector. Rather, he seeks to decolonize these institutions, and this means bringing them under the government’s leash. That’s why Obama retains the right to refuse bailout paybacks–so that he can maintain his control. For Obama, health insurance companies on their own are oppressive racketeers, but once they submitted to federal oversight he was happy to do business with them. He even promised them expanded business as a result of his law forcing every American to buy health insurance.

    If Obama shares his father’s anticolonial crusade, that would explain why he wants people who are already paying close to 50% of their income in overall taxes to pay even more. The anticolonialist believes that since the rich have prospered at the expense of others, their wealth doesn’t really belong to them; therefore whatever can be extracted from them is automatically just. Recall what Obama Sr. said in his 1965 paper: There is no tax rate too high, and even a 100% rate is justified under certain circumstances.

    Obama supports the Ground Zero mosque because to him 9/11 is the event that unleashed the American bogey and pushed us into Iraq and Afghanistan. He views some of the Muslims who are fighting against America abroad as resisters of U.S. imperialism. Certainly that is the way the Lockerbie bomber Abdel Baset al-Megrahi portrayed himself at his trial. Obama’s perception of him as an anticolonial resister would explain why he gave tacit approval for this murderer of hundreds of Americans to be released from captivity.

    Finally, nasa. No explanation other than anticolonialism makes sense of Obama’s curious mandate to convert a space agency into a Muslim and international outreach. We can see how well our theory works by recalling the moon landing of Apollo 11 in 1969. “One small step for man,” Neil Armstrong said. “One giant leap for mankind.”

    But that’s not how the rest of the world saw it. I was 8 years old at the time and living in my native India. I remember my grandfather telling me about the great race between America and Russia to put a man on the moon. Clearly America had won, and this was one giant leap not for mankind but for the U.S. If Obama shares this view, it’s no wonder he wants to blunt nasa’s space program, to divert it from a symbol of American greatness into a more modest public relations program.

    Clearly the anticolonial ideology of Barack Obama Sr. goes a long way to explain the actions and policies of his son in the Oval Office. And we can be doubly sure about his father’s influence because those who know Obama well testify to it. His “granny” Sarah Obama (not his real grandmother but one of his grandfather’s other wives) told Newsweek, “I look at him and I see all the same things–he has taken everything from his father. The son is realizing everything the father wanted. The dreams of the father are still alive in the son.”

    In his own writings Obama stresses the centrality of his father not only to his beliefs and values but to his very identity. He calls his memoir “the record of a personal, interior journey–a boy’s search for his father and through that search a workable meaning for his life as a black American.” And again, “It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself.” Even though his father was absent for virtually all his life, Obama writes, “My father’s voice had nevertheless remained untainted, inspiring, rebuking, granting or withholding approval. You do not work hard enough, Barry. You must help in your people’s struggle. Wake up, black man!”

    The climax of Obama’s narrative is when he goes to Kenya and weeps at his father’s grave. It is riveting: “When my tears were finally spent,” he writes, “I felt a calmness wash over me. I felt the circle finally close. I realized that who I was, what I cared about, was no longer just a matter of intellect or obligation, no longer a construct of words. I saw that my life in America–the black life, the white life, the sense of abandonment I’d felt as a boy, the frustration and hope I’d witnessed in Chicago–all of it was connected with this small piece of earth an ocean away, connected by more than the accident of a name or the color of my skin. The pain that I felt was my father’s pain.”

    In an eerie conclusion, Obama writes that “I sat at my father’s grave and spoke to him through Africa’s red soil.” In a sense, through the earth itself, he communes with his father and receives his father’s spirit. Obama takes on his father’s struggle, not by recovering his body but by embracing his cause. He decides that where Obama Sr. failed, he will succeed. Obama Sr.’s hatred of the colonial system becomes Obama Jr.’s hatred; his botched attempt to set the world right defines his son’s objective. Through a kind of sacramental rite at the family tomb, the father’s struggle becomes the son’s birthright.

  26. Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS

    Your just a bigot, troll, and conspiratorial theory nut! And you answered me by saying I was right! So all the rest of your limp BS is just that BS!!

  28. Rob Kailey

    p.s. The speed with which these comments were written is indicative of one thing only. Check the time stamps; no one types that fast. They were written before hand and planned as a coordinated attack against this website. This is trolling, folks. Nothing more.

  29. democraticleftist420

    Doofy…so Obama’s own words are BS huh! Thanks for admitting it at least! Again, thanks for the name calling, it is very typical of the left….it signifies that those making the accusation do not have reasoned responses to their critics, so they switch to name calling rather than responding to their arguments.

    Emerging market economies such as China, India, Chile and Indonesia have solved the problem of backwardness; they are exploiting their labor advantage and growing much faster than the U.S. If America is going to remain on top, we have to compete in an increasingly tough environment.

    But instead of readying us for the challenge, our President is trapped in his father’s time machine. Incredibly, the U.S. is being ruled according to the dreams of a Luo tribesman of the 1950s. This philandering, inebriated African socialist, who raged against the world for denying him the realization of his anticolonial ambitions, is now setting the nation’s agenda through the reincarnation of his dreams in his son. The son makes it happen, but he candidly admits he is only living out his father’s dream. The invisible father provides the inspiration, and the son dutifully gets the job done. America today is governed by a ghost.

  30. democraticleftist420

    Also, who cares if it was written previously? Why in the hell would it matter if I have done my homework? I am done for now. Please keep posting these comments…it is thoroughly enjoyable to read them when I am in the mood for a parody!

  31. democraticleftist420

    Oh and good job Larry…now you can read the entire article by one of the best author’s living today. Also, please keep in mind Dinesh knows all about colonialism due to his heritage! This worked out perfectly! Thank you left-wing-nut-jobs! Have a great day!

    • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS

      So all you proved is that it is Dinesh’s words you copied………. that makes you a tool Bye Dimwit!

  33. democraticleftist420

    Again, thanks for the name calling, it is very typical of the left….it signifies that those making the accusation do not have reasoned responses to their critics, so they switch to name calling rather than responding to their arguments.

  34. democraticleftist420

    You guys actually became soooooo interested you went and looked up the article all by your lonesome! Most you entitled people have probably done in a long long time! Keep up the good work! Next step…read the actual book!

    • larry kurtz

      Thank you for bringing google juice to Montana’s #1 political website: have a nice day.

    • Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS

      Tool,
      the problem that everything I read says the man you copied from , is a right wing nutjob! Even the respectable right side of politics like David Frum, says Dinesh D’Souza’s a verifiable madman and Liar! You Must be a Newt Tool, angry that your man is dropping out!

      Yeah to bad for you!

  35. Norma Duffy AKA ILIKEWOODS

    IN the words of a great Commentor here named “Larry The Ranger” BWAH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!

    According to these nutjobs when Our Pres goes to sleep or takes a nap, it is actually a ruse to talk to his father, who talks to our president in his dreams… and tells him what to do…. when he wakes up?

    BWAH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!

    OMG! ლ(ಠ_ಠლ) WTF!!!!!!!