TEA Partiers Convene in Kalispell Next Week to Plan Constitutional Amendments

Tim and Chuck Baldwin are hosting a convention in Kalispell next Sunday in Kalispell to discuss their latest plan to fight the “tyranny” of the federal government.

They’re featuring former Montana conservative activist Rob Natelson who will discuss the Baldwins’ goal of nullifying federal laws.  The Baldwins admittedly do not recognize the supremacy clause of the US Constitution.  They say it is a tool of “socialist and nationalist ideologues” designed to bring “state annihilation.”

The nullification bill Tim Baldwin wrote for former TEA Party lawmaker Derek Skees was killed in the 2011 legislature, but now it looks like they’ve decided to try amend the idea into the U.S. constitution instead.  The plan — getting two thirds of all state legislatures to ask Congress to call a convention on amendment, which would have to be approved by three fourths of all state legislatures. As Forbes magazine reports, this has never been successfully done and is “not a terribly realistic prospect.”

Rob Natelson is a natural pick for this bunch.  He’s been described as “the top legal expert” for the TEA Party – a group which is known for espousing legal theory and beliefs that do not measure up to academic standards.

Tim Baldwin (who has run unsuccessfully for a legislature in 2012) and his father Chuck Baldwin have quite a reputation as well.  They are featured in a Southern Poverty Law Center Intelligence Report, which focuses on the recent uptick in extremist activity in Kalispell and the Flathead.  In the article “A Gathering of Eagles: Extremists Look to Montana” the SPLC details the activities of the various far-right movements and their leaders, including Chuck and Tim Baldwin.

Chuck Baldwin was heavily involved in the modern-day incarnation of the White Citizens’ Council that supported segregation and opposed the Civil Rights Movement. In a recent Flathead Beacon article, it was reported that Baldwin has written a column in which he expressed this view:

“The South was right in the War Between the States, and I am not a racist,” he wrote. “Neither do I believe that the leaders of the Old Confederacy were racists.”

Tim Baldwin took issue with the Southern Poverty Law Center report on the TEA Party blog PolyMontana, saying that he is not a racist:

“Some of my closest friends are of African descent. The same can be said of Chuck Baldwin.”

Chuck Baldwin spoke at the infamous Liberty Convention.  The event included headliners several white-supremacist speakers including Red Beckman, Baldwin and a small handful of  others.  Red Beckman is guy whose name you have probably heard before.  In addition to refusing to pay his taxes, Beckman believes that Jewish people are the literal children of Satan, and people of color are sub-human “mud people.”

The same conference sparked  FBI investigation into a plot to kill Alaska state troopers, because it featured speakers court documents show were involved in the plot. Media Matters reported on the Montana angle of the story of Schaefer Cox, who has been charged with conspiracy to commit murder (among other things).  Cox was a featured speaker at the Liberty Convention, where he bragged in front of the audience about commanding a 3,500 strong armed militia and creating a new court system to supplant federal courts.

Posted: October 13, 2013 at 9:09 pm

This post was written by Cowgirl

60 thoughts on “TEA Partiers Convene in Kalispell Next Week to Plan Constitutional Amendments

  1. Publius II

    I used to respect Rob Natelson for his intellect, but now he’s sunk to a NEW low, as teabag crazies running around the White House with rebel flags, spouting more birther sh….t and worse, and what’s next, Texas ‘neckties’?

    1. Rob Natelson

      Dear Publius II:
      I’m sorry to have lost your respect, but one should not rely too heavily on blogs to be accurate. Montana Cowgirl’s report on this event is erroneous in a number of particulars, and I written at length asking for corrections.

      For example, I do not favor nullification, as Montana Cowgirl reported, my talk in Kalispell is essentially a summary of some of my published academic research, and it is not sponsored by any Tea Party groups.

      1. Publius II

        Thanks for responding. I used to be a member of Citizens for Better Government, with a mission to be bi-partisan and objective I would have hoped. Dems, GOP and non-partisan forms of gov’t have been inept and shown disregard for citizens and thus here we are.

        1. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

          Hi Rob. One question for you. Do you still foresee a “coming civil war” over abortion as you once wrote on Gregg Smith’s site? If not, why? Seems to me that we just had our civil war over rightwing nutjob policies, and your side lost. Would you care to comment, though? Seems to me that folks have about had it with all this religeeous nonsense about abortion. I think the christofascists have played it for all it’s worth. Time to move on, don’t you think? Division as a tactic used by your side is NOT going to be as effective in the future I predict, for now that you’ve overplayed your hand, you guys just might slip into Whigdom! What say you? You seem to be attempting to re-light the blue flame of nuttiness up there in Kalispell. Why? Is that still a legitimate tactic, or a failed strategy? Even the Kockh brothers are attempting to disown you guys. NOT a good sign.

          1. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

            The Kockhenstein monster turned on the nutty perfessers who created it. And I’m luvin’ it. Now, I wish that all them Teat Party dudes would admit to just how much gummint teat milk they’re suckin’ up! And the same with those up in KKKalispell! I mean, just HOW long did the barking seal spend in the military again? And HOW much in tax free status did Pastord Bulbdim suck outta his flock of flockers?

            You see, the Kockhenstein monster GREW fat and strong the hated Unca Sugartit milk! And no one except me will write about it. That’s why I call them the Teat Party. All them fat broads with tea hangin’ off their three cornered hats, and the old farts in period costumes, ALL of them is suckin’ LARGE offn’ the gummint teat!

            Here’s Rob’s REAL civil war! And it’s a good one!

            http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/20/us/fiscal-crisis-sounds-the-charge-in-gops-civil-war.html?_r=0

              1. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

                See, the problem as I see it is that our inbred ReePube pals thinks that EVERY one in the country has the same priorities as they do! And unfortunately for them, MOST people have much more banal, everyday concerns. Not EVERY one is a rabid, ignernt, inbred prepping for a war against the hated gummint. And hence, MOST decent, law abiding, hardworking citizens are disgusted with the face of the angry Pubes! Here’s what I’m talking about. (see below) Just WHAT does this inbred have to do with your average citizen? Not much, I’d say. Oh sure, it’s the inbred crowd that keeps Sonju industries in bidness, but the truth be told, not EVERY one wants an AR for Christma!

                http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/20/alex-jones-at-unprecedented-gun-rights-rally-at-alamo-if-its-a-war-they-want-its-a-war-theyll-get/

      2. Norma Duffy

        Ah Rob, I think Cowgirl was pretty close to telling the truth, and so was Publius II.

        The fact is you have been one of a great many in the Tea party who have talk a lot of poop about fourth amendment causes. Spewing inaccuracies about the process, lies about there being others in the past after the constitution ( Not true The truth is, subsequent to our existing Constitution being ratified, there has never been an article V convention ), and how for some reason you believe red states can bypass congress and write a new constitution.

        Thats pretty much balderdash dude. and other constitutional historians of better caliber than you, have disagreed pretty forcefully in writing!

        Nice try cupcake, but I believe you’re not the only person who can read the constitution.

          1. Rob Natelson

            Ms. Duffy:
            Clearly you have never read my articles. First, I’ve written very little on the Fourth Amendment, so I can’t imagine what “poop” you are talking about.
            Moreover, I have never claimed we’ve had an Article V convention. Instead of projecting wild imaginings about what I have or have not said about the latter, I invite you either to come to the meeting Monday or visit the “Artlcle V” tab at i2i.constitution.org/about.
            That goes for “cowgirl” as well.
            Once you have read it, contact me if you wish, and we can talk.
            Rob Natelson

            1. Rob Natelson

              Ms. Duffy
              Ditto on the Fifth Amendment. I have written little on it, so I have no idea what “poop” you are talking about.
              My guess is that you also do not actually understand what portion of the Constitution I plan to address. It is not any of the amendments at all, but Article V of the original Constitution.
              Before you attack what another is saying, it is only common decency to actually know what the person IS saying.
              Again, once you read up on the subject, if you have questions or concerns feel free to contact me and we can talk.
              Rob Natelson

              1. Norma Duffy

                You know what I am talking about dude. and yes I have read your dribble, I wanted to see why a conservative guy who was well on his way to possibly being called a professor emeritus,. fell from such a lofty spot? The answer it seems was your partisan written rantings

                1. you were never from the onset of your career a constitutional law professor. writing for a few red meat sites doesn’t qualify you
                2. You were one of the very people who asked for a federal Shutdown by republicans. and then called it a slowdown…. Your yourself not knowing the extent of what furloughing 100’s of thousands of federal and contract workers would to to this country, not expecting closure to services like the park and veterans services. not knowing that the government is the biggest supplier of jobs in Montana.

                Forgetting at that moment our soldiers need to be paid, or that there were cancer trials and treatment to save lives.

                Spouting to your tiny handful of ardent supporters that:

                “There might be a delay, for example, in grants to promote political correctness or to study the mating habits of apes.” Your words Dude!

                CIA, FBI, NOAA, EPA four agencies cut to the bone….in the midst of a war, and the saving of people in Colorado after a devastating Flood….Your partisan hacks left us vulnerable to attack from outside this country and to the elements…. Plus people who died because of you antics, and the County lost 24 billion in economic and home security.

                You call yourself a patriot? I call you untruthful and thats the least offensive, in my opinion I believe you a seditionist and a traitor to our country. Not following the wishes of our founders

                “Were we to break to pieces, it would damp the hopes and the efforts of the good, and give triumph to those of the bad through the whole enslaved world.
                As members, therefore, of the universal society of mankind, arid standing in high and responsible relation with them, it is our sacred duty to suppress passion among ourselves, and not to blast the confidence we have inspired of proof that a government of reason is better than one of force.”

                “I regret that I am now to die in the belief, that the useless sacrifice of themselves by the generation of 1776, to acquire self-government and happiness to their
                country, is to be thrown away by the unwise and unworthy passions of their sons, and that my only consolation is to be, that I live not to weep over it. If they would but dispassionately weigh the blessings they will throw away, against an abstract principle more likely to be effected by union than by scission, they would pause before they would perpetrate this act of suicide on themselves, and of treason against the hopes of the world.”

                Thomas Jefferson

                Thomas Jefferson saw these kind of chaotic days coming Rob. The fact that some before tried tearing our country apart time and time again as with these days proves nothing has been learned by your kind regarding history (which you erroneously tell folk you understand) or our forefathers very words of how government is supposed to be for the safety and Happiness of all. Not a select few!

                Your revisionist history of the facts doesn’t move me.

              2. Craig Moore

                Rob, you are wasting your time with Norma. She doesn’t know her “dribble” from her “drivel.”

                1. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

                  craigy, could you have rob elucidate just a wee bit on his glorious military career? Oh wait,it’s non- EXISTENT! But rob DID save a Murcan flag once one time as it was about to be torched by some protestors at a protest of the Vietnam War at great personal risk to himself!……..

                  BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!

                  Can you say CHICKENHAWK, boys and girls?! Yes, poor rob is a chickenhawk. He desperately WANTED to go to Nam, but alas, he couldn’t. I FEEL HIS PAIN!

                  rob is much like the Teat Tards and christofascists up there in KKKalispell. The Teat Tards are ALL suckin’ large offn’ Unca Sugarteat’s teat, yet they hate the hated gummint! True story.

                  Now craigy, why don’t you LIST the names of all the inbreds in attendance up there who ar NOT suckin’ off’n Unca Sugarit?! I’ll wait, for I know it’ll be a very, very, VERY short list! Can you do it??? Sonju industries maybe”

                  bwhahahahahahahahahahhahahahaahhaaa!

                  Fun with inbreds. It never ceases!

                  1. Norma Duffy

                    If the word “dribble” is all craig can argue against, and it was used properly………………If this is the best he can do for argument? LOL…… Bwahahaha he should really stop protecting his party’s Idiocy and just let it run out onto the Highway of real life and see if it can make it to the other side before getting run over…… Just saying Craig you even lose the argument over Dribble!

                2. Norma Duffy

                  Dribble: To let saliva drip from the mouth; drool. Hello Craig. like you most days…. this conversation doesn’t rise to even drivel: Stupid or senseless talk!

  2. Lynn

    “Kevin Kruse, a Princeton historian whose work focuses on the South and the conservative movement, finds deep roots in segregationist thought for this turn. “In their own minds, segregationists were instead fighting for rights of their own,” Kruse suggests. These “rights” included “the ‘right’ to select their neighbors, their employees, and their children’s classmates, the ‘right’ to do as they pleased with their private property and personal businesses, and, perhaps, most important, the ‘right’ to remain free from what they saw as dangerous encroachments by the federal government.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/10/09/2730651/how-racism-caused-the-shutdown/

  3. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

    Ah yes. Welcome to the good ol’ red, white, and BLUE flame!
    bwahahahahahahahaaa! These folks have LIT the fart of freedumb! And they plan to keep that flame alive to save the country and get the country back on trakkk! They will NEVER let the blue flame of freedumb die!
    These folkkks enjoy gettin’ together to wax nostalgic about them good ol’ days in Dixie! And keep alive the blue flame of the south!

    Here they are in D.C., havin’ a leetle fun with the black impostor in the white house. They SAY impeach, but what they MEAN is lynch! Think I’m kiddin’? Well, watch what happens to the black dude who happens to walk by in the video. It’s just luck they didn’t have a rope!! Just good ol’ boys wantin’ their country back, jus everyday folkkks!

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/video-protesters-in-confrontation-with-black-man-right-in-front-of-confederate-flag/#0

    And really, the racists have dusted off the nutty perfesser, Booby Nasalsound! That’s too funny. Wonder if ol’ Booby is still waitin’ for his civil war over abortion?!!

      1. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

        Just history repeating itself.

        The End of “The Long Parliament: Macaulay, (or how the Teatard Party and Christofascist movement will eventually play out! A goo read.)

        “The general fate of sects is to obtain a high reputation for sanctity and purity while they are being oppressed, and to lose it as soon as they become powerful: and the reason is obvious. It is seldom that man enrolls himself in a proscribed body from any but conscientious motives. Such bodies, therefore are composed, with scarcely an exception, of sincere persons … But, when a sect becomes powerful, when its favour is the road to riches and dignities, worldly and ambitious men crowd into it, talk its language, confirm strictly to its rituals, mime its peculiarities, and frequently go beyond its honest members in all the outward indications of zeal. … Soon the world begins to find out that the godly are not better than other men, and argues, with some justice, that, if not better, they must be much worse. In no long time all those signs which were formerly regarded as characteristics of saints are regarded as characteristics of knaves.”

        Thus it was with the English Nonconformists (Puritans.) They had been oppressed; and oppression had kept them a pure body. The then became supreme in the state. No man could hope to rise to to eminence and command but by their favour. Their favour was to be gained only by exchanging with them the signs and passwords of spiritual fraternity. One of the first resolutions passed by (their) parliament, the most intensely Puritanical of all our political assemblies, was that no person should be admitted into public service till the House should be satisfied of his real godliness. What were then considered as signs of real godliness, the sad-coloured dress, the sour look, the straight hair, the nasal whine, speeches interspersed with quaint texts, all easily imitated by men to whom all religions were the same. The sincere Puritans soon found themselves lost in a multitude, not merely of men of the world, but the very worst sore of men of the world. For the most notorious libertines… might justly be thought virtuous when compared to some of those who, while they talked about sweet and comfortable scriptures, lived in the constant practice of fraud, rapacity, and secret debauchery.

        The theology, the manners, the dialect of the Puritans were thus associated in the public mind with the darkest and meanest views. As soon as the Restoration (of the monarchy) had made it safe to avow enmity to the party which had so long been predominant, a generally outcry against Puritanism rose from every corner of the Kingdom, and was often swollen by the voices of those very dissemblers whose villainy had brought disgrace to the Puritan name.”

        Hear hear! Do you hear, Teatards and Christofascists?

        1. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

          God is NOW talkin’ out his ass! Well, not His ass per se, but his ass’s representative here on earth, Pope Baby Batista! (ted cruz) Bout TIME the wacko fascist exile Cuban community screwed this country up REAL good! It’s been awhile. They’ve always been a fascist organization consumed by hatred of all things Castro, AND, were an integral part in our coup, the JFK assassination. But now, they want revenge! Pope Baby Batista is gonna bring the entire house down for Jaysus! Go, Baby Batista. Go! God commands it! (these are some sick, sorry sumbitches, just like the meeting of assholes up in Kalispell!)

          http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/14/cruz-on-gods-role-in-the-shutdown-his-will-be-done-as-it-will-be/

          1. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

            Jumpin’ sweet JAYSUS! If’n the Lord can save reprobates of THIS caliber, by GOD there just might be hope for me!

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tA7E7pbUws

            I best get me up there to Kalispell to get some old timey religeeon and fundiwackmentalistm from the christofascist crowd bee FORE it’s too late!

            Lord hep me JAYsus I’ve wasted it!

            1. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

              p.s. I cain’t tell you just HOW many times me and Jesus been drunker than shit whils’t listen’t to this song! Damn! Ever time I HEAR this song it turns me into a blubberin’ mass of tears to outmatch ANY thing Speaker John Boner does! You see folkkks, and my fellow redneck asssholes, NUTHIN’ outdoes JAYsus for gettin’ us redneck assholes lit up! Oh sure, I’ve drunk it all. Tequila, WITH the freakin’ gusano. Vodka, WITH the friggin’ whatever. Hell, onces’t I even drank home brew with the Hoots! But I gotta tell ya, NUTHIN’ does more to brang me closer to JAYsus than drinki’ with Jaysus! My apologies to A.E. Houseman, but drinkin’g with Krisk and Rita and Willy does MORE than Milton can to justify God’s ways to man! Lord hep me JAYsus, I’ve wasted it…..and still am! Jesus, would you mind forgetting the loaves and fishes and just PASS me the frickin’ WINE,bor???

              DAMN it’s damn hard to get a drink some times!

                1. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

                  Shut Down Averted. GF Spitoon Plays with Own Shit!

                  Come ON, Mooseman, Ecke, and all you OTHER inbreds at the GF Spitoon! Who the freakin’ HELL tried to tell you limpdick ass licki’ reetart bastards that the TeatParty was nuthin’ but a bunch-o inbred retired maggots from the AF base and welfare farmers! Great newspaper you assholes got there, Ecke! Jesus. How do you asshole’s SLEEP at night!

                  You see, dipshits, I tried like HELL to get you assholes to report the TRVTH on the inbreds protesting on the steps of the Civic Center. But would you worthless pieces of greedy corporate shit listen? Oh HELL no! You’d rather live on your corporate knees, suckin’ corporate member, than die for the TRVTH! So, let me now ask, are you really PROUD of aiding and abetting the Teatard Party?? You assholes and the Spittoon otter be DAMN proud of yourselves for fostering such a nazzi movement! You own it, Moseman, Ecke, and ALL you other assholes you gave life to the gubmint shutdown! Yes, you really are a bunch of limp dicks! And you can quote me on that!

        2. Craig Moore

          Larry, I see where Oct 15 is a special day for you. http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/sesame-street-magazine-declares-oct-15-national-grouch-day-article-1.1486562

          “A Grouch’s mission in life is to be as miserable and grouchy as possible, and pass that feeling on to everyone else,” a statement on Muppetedia explained. “Only then will a Grouch feel in touch with his or her world and be happy.”

          The Muppet himself sings about his grumpy existence in the “Grouch Anthem,” explaining how grumps everywhere should stand up for their grouchly rights. He adds: “Don’t let the sunshine spoil your rain. Just stand up and complain.”

          The picture sorta does you justice.

      1. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

        Thanks for the head ups, Pubbly. I’ll be there if I don’t have to work. And BTW, I have a new ph. number. Drop me an e-mail and I’ll give it to you. mollylk@hotmail.com I finally did away with the land line thing. It was no longer of use.

          1. Matthew Koehler

            But I keep reading in those scripted LTE’s from the Montana Wilderness Association and their student group that Tea Party Rep Daines is a great “bipartisian” and “Daines is open-minded to conservation efforts.”

            1. In2it

              Matt – I just looked up MWA in Pew policy contributions for 2012 – $199,000 as you surely knew. What blew me away was the long, long list of environmental groups that Pew is behind. Are there any besides yours and AWR that are not on their payroll?

                1. Matthew Koehler

                  This news certainly has hints of the “Sage Brush Rebellion.” The timber industry has sued the Fed Government over a shutdown caused by timber industry- friendly GOP/Tea Party House members.

                  To recap: On September 20, 2013 the GOP/Tea Party members of the US House pass the so-called Restoring Health Forests and Healthy Communities Act, which basically represents the timber industry’s wish list over the past few decades. The bill would mandating dramatic increases in National Forest logging by gutting the ESA, limiting public input, environmental analysis and closing the US Courthouse doors to any lawsuits. In Montana, this would mean a mandated 6 fold increase in National Forest logging.

                  Then, a few weeks later, the same GOP/Tea Party members of the US House (including Montana Rep Steve Daines) force the federal government to shutdown over an Affordable Care Act temper tantrum.

                  Now, yesterday, a major timber industry trade association (which represents lumber, plywood and wood products manufacturers in Montana, and the west) sues the Federal Government over a federal government shutdown caused by the timber industry-friendly GOP/Tea Party members of the US House.

                  Anyone still think the timber industry is an honest participant in “collaboration?”

                  FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: October 15, 2013
                  Contact: Ann Forest Burns
                  (503) 222-9505

                  Timber Industry Seeks Injunction Barring Federal Government’s Suspension of Timber Contracts

                  Portland, OR – Purchasers of federal timber sales and stewardship contracts filed suit yesterday against the Forest Service and the Bureau of Land Management (BLM). They are asking the Oregon Federal District Court to enjoin the agencies from suspending timber contracts during the government shutdown.

                  The American Forest Resource Council (AFRC), an industry trade association, joined an action brought by Murphy Company , High Cascade, Inc.
                  and South Bay Timber, LLC.

                  “It makes zero sense for the cash strapped government to shut down operations that pay millions into the United States Treasury,” said Tom Partin, President of AFRC. “These companies employ loggers and truck drivers that need to be making money to feed their families. Getting logs out of the woods and into mill decks is especially important at this time of the year. Otherwise, these companies won’t be able to operate through the winter.”

                  Under contract law, the government cannot summarily stop timber operations. Contractors operate under harvest plans already approved by the agencies before ground work begins. As long as critical inspections are not needed, they can continue to work. Scheduled payments are made electronically, similar to those made by businesses making quarterly income tax payments.

                  “One of the purposes for these contracts is to improve forest health and reduce fuel for forest fires and protect federal and adjoining property. Issues of public safety in campgrounds and along roads are involved. Shutting down operations means these objectives won’t be met and things will get worse,” Partin said.

                  “A timber operation isn’t something you can turn on and off like a light switch. Once equipment has to be moved out, it can be months before it can be moved back in. For example, operators have waited through the fire season for helicopters to be available. If they can’t fly, they will start work on private contracts and it could be another year before they can come back.

                  Meanwhile, downed timber rots on the ground,” Partin said. “What is happening to our members is particularly frustrating when other businesses with contracts to operate on federal land, such as ski areas, are being allowed to continue working,” Partin said.
                  The National Forest System includes approximately 190 million acres of public land throughout the United States. The BLM administers approximately 264 million acres of public lands. A blanket, unwarranted suspension of revenue-generating timber operations on these vast acres will have a devastating effect on individuals dependent on the timber industry and will exacerbate the impact of the government shutdown on the nation’s economy.
                  AFRC is a regional trade association representing some 60 lumber, plywood and wood products manufacturers in California, Idaho, Montana, Oregon and Washington. Its members utilize public timber in their manufacturing operations. In many areas where its member mills are located, the national forests are a significant source of timber supply because there are few private lands.

          2. Turner

            Daines is definitely NOT a moderate. I wrote the following letter to the editor of our local paper. It may not get printed, though.
            Editor:

            The current governmental shut-down is not, as some news outlets would lead us to believe, the fault of both Republicans and Democrats.

            It is solely the fault of Republican Party extremists, among them our representative Steve Daines.

            The origin of the shut-down is a FreedomWorks campaign launched just after the re-election of President Obama in 2012. FreedomWorks is one of several far-right groups funded by the billionaire Koch brothers.

            On their website, FreedomWorks has the following statement: “Harry Reid and his Democrats will have no incentive to compromise unless they know the Republicans are willing to take a hard stance — even allowing the government to be shut down, if necessary.”

            On August 21st, freshman Representative Mark Meadows of North Carolina wrote a letter urging the leadership to work toward FreedomWorks’ goal of a government shut-down. Daines and 78 other extremist House members eagerly signed on to the letter.

            The letter reads, in part, “We should continue our efforts to repeal Obamacare in its entirety this year, next year, and until we are successful. We urge you [Boehner and Canter] to affirmatively de-fund the implementation and enforcement of ObamaCare in any relevant appropriation bill brought to the House floor in the 113th Congress including any continuing appropriations bill.”

            House Republicans followed the advice of the letter signers. So now, lacking a “continuing appropriation bill” to fund our federal government, it has had to shut down.

            Meadows, who claimed repeatedly in his 2012 campaign that Barack Obama was born in Kenya, is a more flamboyant right-winger than Daines is. But the two have virtually identical voting records. We have to wonder if Daines agrees with his racist friend about Obama’s supposed place of birth.

            If you’ve been furloughed, if you’re having to do without critical government-funded services, or if your business has lost money because of the shut-down, remember who brought it to you. It wasn’t the Democrats. It wasn’t Barack Obama. It was FreedomWorks-inspired, Obama-hating Republican representatives like Mark Meadows and Steve Daines.

            1. In2it

              Oh, you know, that’s kind of how they play you. It’s a joint effort, kind of a PSYOP. Obama is doing his part, and you’re doing yours.

  4. MTNativeEyes

    Cruz’s actions hurt us all, but I predict he’ll soil himself and wait for others to clean up.

    I took to my heels a few years back, disavowing the racism of the GOP.

    Forget “Take Our Country Back.” Our country never went anywhere. It’s “Take Our Republican Party Back [from the dangerous nutjobs]!!”

  5. In2it

    What you are doing here, Cowgirl, in perception management terms, is called “look here, not there.” The Tea Party, itself a PR invention (most members don’t know that), is an ideal vehicle for you to keep your party regulars focused on the absurd gymnastics of a fringe minority while your party is digging a tunnel to the vault.

    My only question about “Cowgirl” is whether you who write here are that clever, or just tools. Given the nature of the ensuing thread in the previous post, with Williams himself offering reasoned comments, I’m guess you search-engined “tea party” and it yielded this lame post.

    1. Lynn

      Usually I just ignore Mark, but tell us again why your blog gets so few readers that you have time to come over here?

      1. In2it

        My blog is not for you. You’re not even invited.

        I have this crazy notion that tools and sprockets and gears and ball bearings need to know the people holding the oil cans. You’re being played.

        1. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

          And mark left off the nuts. The nuts are very important for sprockets and widgets and screws and tools and dildos and such. You see, MARK provides the nuts. He’s nuts! And nuts hold the entire machine together! Without nuts, we’d still be tryin’ like hell to invent the wheel!

          1. In2it

            I first encountered you in 2005 and found not too long after that it is impossible to have a reasoned debate with you. For you to call me a “nut,” given your behavior, is either the most extreme insult available or the most extreme absurdity.

            In any case, I don’t want an exchange with you beyond this. You’re fucking nuts.

          1. In2it

            The authoritarian giveaway …self-appointed and speaking for everyone.

            There must be something on Kos to counter that. Go get it now! Fetch!

                  1. Norma Duffy

                    Mark reminds me of the little, ever whiney, 7 year old kid…. Trailing behind him a stream of brown ooze with a load in his pants….

                    Hoping someone will change him, because he forgot to use the bathroom in all his excitement… and he doesn’t want to take responsibility for his own shit….or his own clean up!

                    Id like to hear the silly story he makes up to his parents– about how someone else, shit in his pants while he was wearing them. But his parents are no where to be found…..

                    There is However a Ford Galaxy speeding through the parking lot, away from the scene…..

    2. MTNativeEyes

      Do you seriously think we aren’t considering consequences? Destroying a pool of critical-thinking opponents is hardly in the Democrats’ best interests, for instance. Yeah, we’re all staring at the crazy. That’s just human nature. To avoid hazard, pay close attention to the foamy-mouthed lunatic waving a confederate flag.

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