Congress Deciding How Much More to Punish Hungry Poor People

More than 130,000 low-income people in Montana saw a cut to assistance buying food for their families on November 1st.

Now, a group of Senators and Congressmen are working out how much more they will cut help for hungry families, just in time for the holiday season.

Please call Senator Max Baucus’s office on this issue. You can email too but it’s better if you call.  He currently sits on the conference committee for the Farm Bill that is working on a “compromise” between the House’s $40 billion cut and the Senate’s $4 billion cut to SNAP – on top of the cuts implemented at the first of the month.


Posted: November 9, 2013 at 9:04 am

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56 thoughts on “Congress Deciding How Much More to Punish Hungry Poor People

  1. Norma Duffy

    Food Stamps are actually a supportive Frame. Helping small farmers get their products to market. It allows people to buy food with government aid, and the government in turn is paying small farmers for their product.

    This republicans Farm bill intentions is to not only hurt to the poor, but the small Farmer. if the Ag market becomes any narrower for small farmers they themselves will fail.

    Heres the scenario Big Ag isn’t talking about. Climate Change is devastating there farming as well. pretty soon according to scientists, some say as soon as 2025. there is gonna be fighting in the midwest and south for water rights, between Urban areas and farming. Big ag needs the little farmer’s land in areas not as devastated by Climate change, and they need every well and water right they can get their hands on in Areas already affected like Texas and Arizona….. and we are not even talking about Fracking’s needs for over 300,000,000 million gallons per well yet.

    The less small Farmers are in the way for corporate interests the better, the Less mouths America feeds the faster the little farms fail.

    1. Richard Miller

      Check out where T. Boone Pickens has been putting his money lately. It will give the people living there a whole new meaning to getting hosed.

    1. Norma Duffy

      Paygo does suck! and so is the countless reasons we haven’t been able to put the money back as well! I believe it has been also the fault of the sequestration as well!

  2. Moorcat

    This is what I don’t understand. If you – as a fiscal conservative – are going to cut federal spending, Why SNAP/Food stamps? First, it is the most efficient government program operating. No other government program can claim it’s provable reliability. Granted, no government program is without fraud, but the amount of fraud in the SNAP program has been reduced to less than 5%

    More importantly, for every 5$ spent on the SNAP program, it returns 9$ into the local communities. This, again, is a verifiable fact. If you are going to cut a federal program, the very last program you should cut is one that HELPS the economy.

    The other thing to consider is that over 1 million of the people who saw their SNAP benefits go down were men and women in military. These people have traditionally support the right and the right makes all kinds of claims about how they support the military. I guess those claims are as false as all the other claims they make.

    1. James Conner

      The last thing the members of the nutball right want is a government programs that does good, and does it efficiently. They find that kind of program worse than one that wastes money and does harm.

    2. Norma Duffy

      Hey the same can be said for voter registration, before the republicans tried to co-opt it as well. Hardly any fraud! we’ve had more UFO sightings a year then voter fraud every 75 years of elections.

      Whatever happened to “If it aint broke do fix it?” Isn’t that conservative enough for the teabaggers on the right?

      1. Moorcat

        As many news reporters have labeled it, Voter ID laws are a solution looking for a problem. In the five years examined during the Bush Administration, there were a grand total of 86 cases of voter fraud. Not 86 million, not 86 thousand…86. Voter ID laws were passed simply to prevent people that would have likely voted Democrat from voting. Wendy Davis was denied a vote (she was eventually allowed to vote by signing an affidavit and because she was a State Legislator), A former Speaker of the House was denied a voter ID, the list goes on… These laws will be challenged because they are denying the rights of legitimate citizens to vote.

      2. Norma Duffy

        the House Homeland Security Committee published a video on their Youtube page highlighting a portion of the committee questioning Roberta Stempfley, acting assistant secretary of the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Cyber-security and Communications, who confirmed at least 16 attacks on the Affordable Care Act’s portal website in 2013.

        Roberta Stempfley highlighted one successful attack that is designed to deny access to the website called a Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attack. A DDoS attack is designed to make a network unavailable to intended users, generally through a concerted effort to disrupt service such as repeatedly accessing the servers, saturating them with more traffic than the website is designed to handle.

        Right wingers have been distributing the link to the necessary tools to perform the attacks on the website through social networking, as pointed out by Information Week, and other websites .

        The name of the attack tool is called, “Destroy Obama Care!”

        Conversation starts at 1:30

    1. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

      Dipshit Daines gets all the nourishment he needs from the Big Kockh brothers! And buddy let me tell ya he NEVER goes hungry! What’s that giant sucking sound? Stevey gettin’ fed!!

    1. James Conner

      I’m leery of ballot measures in midterm elections. I recommend waiting until 2016 when the turnout will be better and the electorate will be more likely to approve progressive measure. The Sea-Tac vote was welcome, but it was local. A far better example of what can happen occurred in Colorado, where a pro-education tax hike failed by a two to one margin in a low turnout election in a state that’s seldom in a mood to raise taxes.

        1. James Conner

          How much would it increase turnout, and how does one know? If a minimum wage raise initiative goes down in 2014, it will be a cold day in hell before there’s another chance to revive the issue.

  3. ApplePieKate

    I am a compassionate person. Sometimes empath overwhlems me and I become disfunctional with it. Seriously. It’s a curse of sorts. It disgusts me to see myself making such a politically incorrect remark as this, but hungry people will rob those who have more.

  4. ApplePieKate

    Ahem. Let me restate that. It’s late. I am a compassionate person, not by choice, and sometimes I am so overwhelmed by empathy that it feels like a curse. It disgusts me to find myself acknowledging that hungry people with shildren and guns will rob people who are more fortunate. This seems to be the Great Unsaid lately.

    1. Moorcat

      I am not sure I understand you, Kate. Are you saying that the move to defund Food Stamps is a good thing because people getting food stamps shouldn’t be getting them? Or are you saying that people who rob stores are poor people looking for food? I really don’t get where you are trying to go…

  5. Norma Duffy

    My opinion:

    What we are seeing is history repeat itself. As republican christians go out of their way harming poor people and minorities the churches aren’t getting involved, just like they did In World war 2 Nazi Germany.The Republicans just voted to cut $39 billion from the food stamp program. Where is the Church? How afraid do they have to be to not follow Jesus’s teaching, or do they actually believe they are saving American people by allowing those who are not christian to be burned by the right wing establishment. Why have they not engaged the evil in congress that is encompassing this new thinking within the Right Wing of the Congress?

    From a jewish perspective, I see the building of another Holocaust here. Forcing Americans to seek refuge in Church soup kitchens so the right can convert by force or you don’t eat! They did the same in germany as well to the jew, the gipsy and the non believers of christ,. looks like they still believe in that evil Idea now.Kinda wondering when they start making us all wear yellow markings on our clothes, so we can all be easily Identified by their countless christian militias

    Lets face it folks, this is another religious kind of war.

    No better than the Taliban and their extremism of Islam, No Better than the Fascists and their extremism of Christianity, No Better than the Zionists who mistreat the Blacks in Israel today.

    1. Moorcat

      Actually, a better corollary for what is going on now is the concentration of wealth in the late 1910’s and early 20’s. Coming off yet another religious revival in the early 1900, the robber barons amassed a massive amount of wealth and the middle class all but disappeared. When that wealth disparity got too big, it all came crashing down because the non-wealthy were being crushed below an unsustainable personal debt and what social safety nets that existed in that time (there weren’t a lot of them) couldn’t help the staggering numbers of poor. Jobs disappeared and people panicked – which led to the bank runs and the crash of the American Economy.

      1. Norma Duffy

        Yeah but they weren’t as fascist as these guys today. I agree with you on most points here, but the hate we see now is more in line with what we saw from Mussolini, and Germany in world war II. I see the corporations aiding it openly now than in the 1910.

        1. Turner

          I’m not exactly sure what fascism is. I think it’s like pornography. I can’t define it but I know it when I see it. And the movement on the far right — from its propagandists at Fox news to its brownshirts at Ted Cruz rallies — sure seems like fascism to me.

          1. Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers

            Well, Daddy cruz was RAISED in fascist Cuba! He knows exactly what fascism looks like under a dictator like Batista. And he FLED when Castro came to power. He longs for the good ol’ days when you could simply pick folks up off the street and torture and kill them with impunity. And the days when the mafia ran the island along with the U.S. corporations. You see, things are just SO much simpler when there is no dissent and no democracy! Daddy cruz knows, and now his little turd knows! The mierda don’t roll TOO far from the ano! You want to see fascism? Well then, vote for the turd! Fascism si, democracy no! VIVA BATISTA!……and his little turdlette cruz!

            1. Publius II

              ‘Papa’ Kruz a dottering, senile and hateful ‘ol fool and ‘furrinnur’ by bagger standards I’d figger, sounds like he ‘snuck’ in with his Kanadian ‘package’, our little Joe McCarthy clone, King Kruz and the Krazies….

  6. Norma Duffy

    The majority of the Republican Base, which is RW doesn’t believe in democracy anymore… nor do they believe and live in the moral teachings of Jesus words about helping their fellow man..

    1. In2it

      You are then, as I have long suspected, a person convinced of her own moral superiority to others. Such an attitude is typical of the ideologies you criticize. Anyone committing crimes against humanity must be first convinced that they are right and there can use ends that justify their means.

      Tyrants the world over need lotsa little Norma’s to thrive.

        1. In2it

          William, such snootiness! Here’s some basic politics for you: Obama ran as a Democrat, but is a Neocon and intended to carry on the Bush legacy. To get away with such a trick, he needed opponents that were so extreme that he looks moderate by comparison. Ergo, the Tea Party, invented by a PR agency, gathered up the fringe elements of the Republican Party and empowered them by using FOX News to publicize them.

          The result: Obama, a Neocon, appears moderate and Democrats, who are fear-based but issue-free voters anyway, continue to support him.

          Learn politics, William.

          1. William

            Shut up troll. I don’t give a hoot about your lame advice. There are better commentators here who live in Montana and don’t waste the space you do talking shit

            I have been happily reading this blog as a spectator for two years without commenting. The only thing crappy about it, is people like you. I have kinda had it with your bullshit. I decided I had to jump in when you got as goofy as hell towards some of the people here. Montanan’ s who make more sense then you do. I don’t hate you or anything, but if you were on fire and I had a glass of water, I’d drink it and let you burn. So in the future, do not bother me with your lame descriptions of stupidity, or your defamation of people here. at least others bring something to the conversation I like to muse about throughout the day.

            You, I only wish there was a pest repellant for.

  7. Publius II

    Ah Sunday, and I remind the ‘tea people’ hypocrites, Any Rand-ian Paul Ryan worshippers (Ryan, RAND was an atheist who supported abortion!) that the old and new testaments teachings
    of Jesus were very clear about WARNINGS to rulers about OPRESSING the poor, especially noted in Proverbs 14:31, 3:34, 22:9, 17:5 and in Isaiah 10:1-3. The worst GOP/Tea Party hypocrites citing from the Bible about ‘no work, no food’ and if that’s true, then they should REFUSE the billions in farm subsidies – especially to Congress like Bachmann, Montana legislators – that don’t really help FAMILY farms, but promote Ag Business that’s all about GMO, chemicals, pollution and worse while cutting NUTRITION to veterans, kids, parents and seniors.

    1. Lynn

      For most families,receiving SNAP, money is tight as hell, every little bit hurts.

      A Family of 4, will lose $36 a month, 432.00 per year. These are people who are one pay check a way from losing everything, or they are already living in their car

  8. Richard Miller

    Interesting comment was proposed for discussion on another news site. The question was if you are pro-life then how come the repuglican party is so bent on destroying people through cuts to aid such as these cuts to the food stamp program? Answer that one MR. Daines.

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