Zinke is out waving his sexism around again

Ryan Zinke, left

Zinke’s Statements  Against Women In Combat Reminiscent of What Used to Be Said of Black Troops

In an article in the Free Beacon Zinke makes some overtly sexist statements about women to try to make his case that qualified women shouldn’t be allowed in combat roles.

Here’s Zinke: “They do great work and are very professional, but that doesn’t mean they should be the ones kicking in doors or clearing a room,” Zinke said. “Not everyone is going to be a lineman and that’s alright. You need wide receivers, too.”

He continues by saying he is “concerned about the mission and giving our team what they need to win.”

Every branch of the military wants women in combat – except one: the marines. To defend his position, Zinke bemoans the fact that a selectively edited  “study” which the Marines conducted internally then leaked make the case that they want to be the only branch of the military that will not allow women in combat, was thrown out because it was widely regarded as flawed.

Zinke’s sexiest statements also fly in the face of some pesky truths.  First, the fact that A”merican women have been effectively in combat during more than 13 years of conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan, dying under hostile fire and bombs and winning bravery medals,” as the Guardian reports.   Even Zinke’s former colleagues at the Navy Seals announced in August that they would allow women to apply.

As Intelligent Discontent has already pointed out, Zinke’s claims sound an awful like what used to be said of black troops. Following the First World War, the Army War College prepared a report (in 1925) that concluded black troops of World War I were “barely fit for combat.”

Qualified women should be able to serve.  Yet Zinke would have women like the two that qualified this year for the Army’s Ranger unit, disqualified simply because they have ovaries I guess. (This year was the first time women were allowed to try to qualify.) Combat service is factored in to whether promotions and job advancement are offered to military personnel – something Zinke appears to oppose when it comes to women.

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24 Comments on "Zinke is out waving his sexism around again"

  1. Did you know Mr. Zinke is a former Navy SEAL? He is. EVERY SINGLE TIME I see him, he tells me that he is a former Navy SEAL. I think he is afraid if he finds out girls can do the same job, it will threaten his masculinity and since he is very fond of boasting about that (DID YOU KNOW HE IS A FORMER NAVY SEAL?) I think he is afraid it will make him like Ted Cruz. And NOBODY wants to be a girl. I mean. . .girls. . . yuck.

    • “I think he is afraid it will make him like Ted Cruz. And NOBODY wants to be a girl. I mean. . .girls. . . yuck.”

      Please tell me that you are not inferring that he might be a “pussy”.
      But, seriously, i agree about the flaunting of the military crap. Half of the petitions i send to him show his picture in uniform, and i, personally, am quite tired of it and the reason he does so.

  2. Zinke’s only accomplishment is ‘Navy Seal’. A fine one at that but a Representative of our State (that includes men and Women) he falls miserably short. He has to use ‘Seal’ and hope that it will carry his sexist opinion. It does not.

  3. Guess that Zinke doesn’t feel that the Israelis are capable since they allow women to serve. And to put the cherry on the whipped cream, the service is compulsory.

  4. Women are not as physical capable as men. They can fly planes, drive tanks but not carry a wounded solder like a man.

    • Thats BS. I have seen woman carry guys with one hand from a copter and the medical bag in the other in Nam. Any two women in that war Could heft a stretcher to triage I did it many times.
      Whats wrong with you? American farm girls basically held those roles, when ever we were short handed. If they can heft a bale of alfalfa at home, which weighs any where from 124-175 they can carry a guy.

      • Thanks, Norma, for speaking out. I am getting very tired of hearing this crap about women.

        “Whatever women do they must do twice as well as men to be thought half as good. Luckily this is not difficult.” – Charlotte Whitton

      • Thank you for your service Norma.

    • With your attitude and that of Zinke’s, it is a wonder that we won WW II using all of those “inferior women” in places that “men” traditionally worked. You sir, are what is wrong with this country-frail male ego syndrome or tiny penis envy.

    • I bet you’ve never been in combat Richard. I was 5’7″ 155# when I went to VietNam. I came home weighing 118#. I couldn’t have carried a 200# wounded soldier either. Fact of the matter is you cannot stop fighting to move the wounded during a firefight. Most of the direct casualties occur at the leading edge of a fight. All you can realistically do is press the enemy to back off so medics can safely get to them. It’s not like the movies. By the way, there were guys there smaller than me and I never once considered whether or not they could carry me, all I cared about was will they have my back. People with your attitude make me want to puke.

  5. As if combat is somehow a good thing, let the rich old men who want war fight the war.

  6. As much as I hate to, I agree with Zinke, not only from a front line perspective but from a captured propganda tool perspective as well. Women just do not belong in a front line role and there us no sexism about it. They would become a high risk luxury whose only purpose would be to fulfill a politically coirrect agenda.

    • the only “agenda” being promoted is Equality, an Ideal our Founders held in high esteem for some reason. Not claiming they always lived up to it but at least they started us on the right road. Picking Drive or Reverse is up to us…

  7. Doug Becknell you are wrong! Let me give you some some recent examples of Women Valor because apparently you no nothing of our armed services.

    Sgt. Sherri Gallagher is one of the top long-range rifle marksmen in the country, and was named Soldier of the Year.
    Branch: Army
    Rank: Sergeant

    Why she’s impressive: Gallagher, a shooter in the U.S. Army Marksmanship Unit, beat out 11 other competitors for the title of Soldier of the Year. She bested her competition — mostly male — in events such as hand-to-hand combat, urban maneuvers, detainee operations, casualty evaluation, weapons familiarization, and night firing.
    http://valor.militarytimes.com/recipient.php?recipientid=38

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    Maj. Lauren Edwards led more than 150 Marines and several vehicles in defensive maneuvers during the invasion of Iraq.
    Branch: Marine Corps

    Rank: Major

    Why she’s impressive: A combat engineer, Edwards was leading a company of combat engineers during the invasion of Iraq when her unit’s convoy was attacked in 2003. It was the first time she had ever been shot at, according to Why Marines Fight, a book by James Brady, but she led more than 150 Marines and several vehicles in defensive maneuvers, earning an award for valor in the process.

    Edwards’ physical strength is equally impressive; she can run a perfect male physical fitness test, which includes running three miles in 18 minutes, doing 20 pull-ups and 100 sit-ups in two minutes, a feat even males find it incredibly difficult to do.

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    Sgt. Leigh Ann Hester killed several enemy combatants while under attack in Iraq, saving American lives.
    Branch: Army
    Rank: Sergeant

    Why she’s impressive: Hester is one of the few women to be awarded for valor in close-quarters combat. When she and her squad came under fire by enemy combatants while stationed in Iraq, Hester helped repel more than two dozen Iraqi insurgents.

    Amazingly, Hester walked directly into the line of fire to kill at least three enemy combatants at close range, according to a Washington Post article

    Because of her swift heroism, Hester saved the lives of numerous convoy members. Her actions led her to become the first woman since World War II to earn the Silver Star Medal, the third highest award exclusively for valor in combat.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/25/AR2005062501263.html

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    Cpl. MaryBeth Monson maintained the security of her base during an attack by Afghani insurgents disguised as American soldiers.
    Branch: Marine Corps

    Rank: Corporal

    Why she’s impressive: Cpl. MaryBeth Monson was on deployment in Afghanistan when enemy combatants disguised as American soldiers mounted an assault on the base.

    Monson kept the personnel calm until security was back up and running and spent 80 hours volunteering to clean up afterwards, even though her unit wasn’t assigned to this task.

    For her calm in the line of fire and commitment to the efforts of the Marine Corps, Monson was awarded the 2013 USO’s Woman of the Year Military Leadership Award. The annual award presented to one woman from each branch of the military is one of the most prestigious given to female service members. http://www.idahostatejournal.com/members/article_aac2e80a-b2f4-11e2-81b9-001a4bcf887a.html

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    Air Force Lt. Col. Susan Pangelinan orchestrated a disaster response mission during the California wildfires.
    U.S. Air National Guard official website
    Branch: Air Force

    Rank: Lieutenant Colonel

    Why she’s impressive: Pangelinan became an environmental hero when she served as the Medical Operations Officer during the California wildfires of 2008, reporting injuries, tracking medical supplies, and managing first responders in a disaster response mission.

    Pangelinan, who currently serves as the Joint Staff Medical Advisor for the California National Guard, acts as the State of California liaison for disaster and emergency response. She advises the Army and Air Division leaders on medical matters and coordinating emergency military medical support of civilian agencies.

    She was also awarded a Department of Defense Science, Technology, Engineering and Math Role Model Award for her accomplishments in the STEM fields. http://www.129aha.org/Rescuegram/Rescuegram/2009/Rescuegram%20May%202009.pdf

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    As a military correspondent, Staff Sgt. Lindsey Kibler covered Army development and outreach in one of the most dangerous regions of Afghanistan.
    Branch: Army
    Rank: Staff Sergeant

    Why she’s impressive: Lindsey Kibler was personally selected by the Army’s Chief of Media Operations to cover stories at Brigade Task Force level.

    She reported from a dangerous and volatile area of Afghanistan covering development and outreach efforts. Kibler returned with 11 stories and over 300 photos from her assignment, which earned her recognition as the Keith L. Ware Print Journalist of the Year in 2011.

    All while serving, Kibler maintained a 3.8 GPA at St. Martin’s University and managed to pass a rigorous physical fitness test with flying colors just weeks after having an invasive abdominal surgery.
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    Spec. Ashley Pullen saved the life of a squad member by shielding him with her own body while under attack.

    Branch: Army
    Rank: Specialist

    Why she’s impressive: Ashley Pullen, a Humvee driver, saved a fellow squad member’s life when her convoy came under attack in Baghdad. She treated the injured squad member’s stomach wound and even shielded him with her own body to protect him from further blasts. She then helped transport wounded soldiers to a makeshift landing zone for evacuation by helicopters.

    Pullen was awarded a Bronze Star with Valor distinguishing device for her heroism on that day.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/25/AR2005062501263_5.html

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    Margaret Woodward commanded the entire U.S. air campaign in Libya during Operation Odyssey Dawn.
    Branch: Air Force
    Rank: Major General

    Why she’s impressive: Woodward organized the U.S. airstrike campaign in Libya as the commander of Operation Odyssey Dawn’s air component. She was the first woman to command a U.S. combat air campaign.

    Today, the Major General holds the very important role as Director of the Air Force Sexual Assault Prevention and Response (SAPR) in Washington, D.C. Her office is the single point of accountability and oversight for sexual assault policy matters, and she reports directly to the Vice Chief of Staff of the Air Force.

    No matter what we do with standards, some women will make the cut. And those are the women we want in our armed services.The only smart way to go about putting women in combat is to use a gender-blind physical and intelligence test. Women have proved it before. and woman will prove it again……. No Matter what naysayers like you say!!!!

    • Jeebus crispy Norma, will you marry me? Or maybe just run for Governor? I am constantly humbled by your responses on this blog. You frequently leave me laughing, occasionally crying but always just a bit wiser. Thanks.

      • Oh yes. Norma is always right. Have you not been paying attention to this site?! I too believe that “some” women have what it takes to be combat ready but not many women. We were all just provided with a list of brave capable women and that’s all wonderful – good for them!Regardless of their abilities they are still women with women parts and the “naysayer” Doug has a point as well. Apparently men and backwards women like him, I suppose, should just shut up and say nothing. It.’s not all so cut and dry. But then that’s obvious

        • Women can do whatever men can do Lucy. If a woman wants to be a soldier, I say let her. Russia lets them fight, Israel lets them fight, England lets them fight. China lets them fight. Men need to get off there puritan asses in this country and acknowledge the only thing stopping women from being as good a soldier as men is men!

          • “Women can do whatever men can do”

            Except father children. But women do the hard work in procreation …

            • With sperm banks available they father children too. all that is needed is the credit card. woman can also adopt now as a single parent I did. Innovation and persistence pays off to any woman who wants it in today’s world.

              this is actually why the GOP throw such fits today about women. We have a right to do things we didn’t have the right of now. In the 1950’2 woman still couldn’t open a Bank account by themselves.

              I remember the day my mom finally got to open one in the late 1950’s her excitement at being able to save her own money…. I never forget that and I will always fight for us as woman because of that.

              So know you know another reason the GOP want to turn back the Clock. need more info look here.
              http://www.cbsnews.com/news/women-have-more-jobs-and-more-poverty/

              • Sorry Apple cell phones for posts are the worst.

                • Yes Norma, whatever. You missed the point – clouded by judgment maybe? Obviously, not all women can do what men can do in this case and when they can (and do)they are at a greater risk of harm in certain cases (if they get captured for instance) simply because they are women. Some counties are far more unkind, unfair to women than our own horribly unequal country. If a qualified woman wants to go on the front line she as a woman, of course, needs to fully realize the risks therein. Is that her choice alone to make in all instances? May that choice endanger others around her? There is a lot more to this than a woman’s ability to be a soldier and a man’s ability to soldier along side her. We as a nation, our military leaders, need to take this seriously, think it through completely. But then again, how could any opinion other than your own be valid.

                  • My opinion carries weight because I have been there.

                    You’re only speaking from your opinion, not a life experience. I get that. But that’s all it is Lucy, Your opinion, your perspective, your non experienced argument.

                    Half of the country is women. 150 million plus others ladies who are as individual as our fingerprints. So why in G-ds name, should your opinion count as to what other women should have to do with their lives? Or how they live their Lives?

                    I look at possibilities for women and say bring it on. Do what you want to do. Hey girls here’s another glass ceiling shattered, another door of opportunity, and you say what? Don’t do it? It’s scary, you won’t make it if you try?

                    Really?

                    Open up the military and let women make the choice to enlist. thank goodness, It’s not up to you to say, “No” to women who might be thinking of enlisting…. Anymore than it is for any man to say No also.

                    Like I said, I done it. I experienced it, I survived it just fine. I even enjoyed making a difference in the world with other woman.

                    Dont take that away from other future sisters in this world who want to do it too.

                    I think what you’re worried about, is the GOP talking points of selective service. Which is right now just that talking points in a campaign.(again GOP scaring the base) the chances of selective service ever happening again…. is zero.

                    And even if it did come true someday. I trust the judgments of any woman who dares to be good, to be a great soldier in our armed services…. there is no shame in that dream.

  8. Good grief. Lets be honest here, all men don’t qualify for combat either. There are plenty of guys who can’t do the rigors of combat but they aren’t disqualified from war. There are plenty of jobs.

  9. But personally, I strive for peace not war.

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