GOP Chair: no big deal that Trump Elector wants LBGT people beaten, killed

The Montana GOP chairman yesterday told the last Last Best News that it’s no big deal to have a Republican Presidential elector (yes, of the electoral college) who says LBGT people should be beaten and strung up to die.

This Trump elector (one of three from Montana, the others being Nancy Ballance and Thelma Baker) is Dennis Scranton.  Scranton said of LBGT people an interview last week: “I don’t like fruitcakes.  I don’t like Democrats and I don’t like liberal lies. They didn’t have fruitcakes where I grew up.  Hang ‘em on a fence. That’s what they need.”

Scranton has expressed similar views before.  You may remember him from the ruckus that ensued back in 2011, when Scranton wrote on Facebook that he thought that the way in which Matthew Shepard was treated (Shepard was a young gay man in Wyoming was beaten and killed in Wyoming) would be an appropriate way to deal with LBGT people in Montana.  The head of the Montana Tea Party at the time, Tim Ravndal, went on Facebook to heartily agree with Scranton, and was shortly thereafter fired by the Tea Party, no small accomplishment.

Scranton was made an elector at the Republican state convention this summer.  When the state Republican Chairman Jeff Essmann was confronted this week with Scranton’s recent comments as well as those he made in 2011, Essmann responded by saying only that:

…when people reach a certain age, they tend to follow one of two paths—deciding that the things they cared about deeply when they were young don’t matter much anymore, or thinking, ‘I can say whatever the hell I want and the rest of the world be damned.’  I guess Mr. Scranton has followed the second path.

Essmann added that being a presidential elector “is strictly a ceremonial function, and I hope people remember that.”  Don’t worry. We will.

 

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79 Comments on "GOP Chair: no big deal that Trump Elector wants LBGT people beaten, killed"

  1. Being an elector is NOT a “ceremonial function”. But maybe it is to those who do not read and understand the Constitution. But they want to throw the Constitution at everyone else to show their wisdom.

  2. My legislator! Jeffery, you only prove the point I have made ever since you were first elected-you are an asshole.

  3. No surprise Essman refused to denounce blatant bigotry, he did not want to alienate a large portion of the MT/GOP-Republican base. Using V.P. Wallace’s historic 1944 definition of a “Fascist”, Jeff Essman and the MTGOP are in fact part of the Fascists movement that Wallace warned would rise in America. This is no joke these “American Fascists” are highly dangerous, and must be stopped!!! http://newdeal.feri.org/wallace/haw23.htm

  4. Non of this should be a surprise to anyone. Both the national and MT GOP have been blowing the racist/bigot dog whistle for decades. Thanks to Trump’s victory, they are now out of the closet.

  5. This moron needs a taste of his own medicine. Nothing but a spineless, pathetic bully.

  6. Hamilton wrote in the Federalist Papers #68 (Regarding the Mode of Electing the President):

    “It was desirable that the sense of the people should operate in the choice of the person to whom so important a trust was to be confided. This end will be answered by committing the right of making it, not to any pre-established body, but to men chosen by the people for the special purpose, and at the particular conjuncture.

    It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice. A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations.”

    The position of Elector is anything but “ceremonial” and Dennis Scranton is absolutely unqualified to hold the position.

  7. A dangerous, demented man. That someone with that much poison in him is a representative of our president, and our state, is both sad and abhorrent.

  8. I am saddened by the hatred coming from so many places. The only way to fight it is to go the extra mile by exposing the people who are spreading the bigotry while rising above to defend those who are being bullied.

  9. Such statements are a disgrace whether you are 13 or 93. Just because he is an old man does not give him a pass on civil behavior. That Scranton should be chosen by any political party to represent the people of Montana is a mockery of our Constitution. Respect for one another is a requirement of our political system. Those who defend the actions of a bigot are demonstrating their own prejudice and show a lack of leadership qualities.

  10. What, if anything, can Montanans do to express our outrage? Who can we contact? How can we push back that would actually make a difference?

  11. As a gay dude living in a very backwards red state, one thing is in my favor: MT’s open carry laws. Don’t be afraid. Just wear a semi-auto on your hip and everyone is nice to you.

  12. A legit recount may well say
    of course DJT did not win!
    Add things up. DJT and RNC did everything to win.
    But they might have lost!
    Just like the Exit Polls suggested.
    Do not pass this off to the Democratic Party.
    Twice before the DNC gave up,
    when they might have won.

  13. Mr. Unpopular lost by 2 M votes,
    and would never have won California.
    Outflank the fraud right.
    Watch FSTV tonight.
    If not quite motivated, watch Richard Spencer full screen on
    Monday’s Democracy now.
    Then go to the posted Montana Cowgirl clip and watch Spencer go on and on about:

    ‘We are the conquerors. (this country) belongs to us.
    We the conquerors.’

    Watch the man in the colored tee shirt walk out.
    That’s where the Democracy Now video begins.

    This is way beyond partisan franchise politics.
    This about those who attempted to conquer the USA voters.

    Oh, and for those who would delight in re-flaming HRC on Cowgirl.
    Too much already of your intentionally divisive, disruptive non-sequiters.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/clinton-lead-popular-vote-2016-231790

  14. I am shopping for a big, giant safety pin-I think the idea of identifying friendly people is always good and I know there are going to be times I must speak up in the face of ignorance. I will engage in a ton of I-told-you-so in a loud manner as time goes on and impeachment grows nearer(no way a man who has acted like he is above the law all his life and gotten away with it will make it 4 years w/out an impeachable offense). The idea of this election putting SCOTUS in neocon hands for the next 30 years is too frightening to accept. We need a return to paper ballots and honest elections but until then we are going to have to stick up for each other and call out inhumane activity when we see it.

  15. Chris Hedges has written extensively on neoliberalism and how the DNC is no longer the “party of the people”. Truthdig.com is where to bone up on the techical details.

  16. Bad news, a close support of the alt left, Fidel Castro has passed away. It has been reported the attendance at his funeral has exceeded well over 7 people or effectively like the number of alt left liberals posting here, a Bernie Sander rally or a Hillary Clinton rally without Kanye West/Cher free tickets. Donations have been reported in the amount of $4.65 or equal to the 2017 Clinton Foundation donations.

    • Really Bill? Looks like another HIstory lesson is needed here.

      I guess you Republican types won’t be happy until you Isolate the USA from the rest of the World, and we have no one to trade with Or share Ideas with.

      A little simplistic History of Cuba goes something like this. The USA Corporations in Cuba Uplifted a complete and utter Dictator in Fulgencio Batista. The cronyism with the American Elite, the corruption with the American Elite was gone when CAstro came to power. WIth what money they had stolen from the Corporations that stole from them. they made sure every man women and child, had shoes on their feet, a meal in their belly, and Medical Aid. It wasn’t much but it was a start.

      We as a country stood Idly by when Rich Republican Americans tried to rape their land, people and culture… so it is no wonder they ran into the arms of the Russians.

      We have a habit of doing the wrong things with countries we see as raw Commodities to be taking from. And the majority of Foreign policy mistakes like this is always coming from the republican side of the ISle. This was the Biggest mistake Republican president Eisenhower made. He allowed American Companies to keep raping Cuba while Batista, jailed anyone who raised their voices, Murdered every Dissident that asked him to feed and care for his people. He did more damage to Cuba than CAstro did.

      You need to read your History, You Republicans are still stuck in medieval times of empires.

      The problem with these past Republican strategies is minerals and crops do not vote. the people you are engaging do…. and if you continue to treat them badly and lift up Despots so corporations can rake in more money, you will always find a way to arouse the spirit of people to be free.

      Yeah a Communism might be considered a form of leftists by republicans, But casro never considered himself a communist. what made him communist in the eyes of Americans was taking Russian money. He was not unlike the colonists of AMerica who rose up and took back what is theirs from the King of England. A rag tag Army chased off the yoke of burden to another country. And you Republicans actually hate that Idea. No in reality you hate that a bunch of browns and blacks through off the Yoke of American Empire Oppression.

      YOur version of history has been clouded by lies. Raise your Intelligence for a goddamn change… Please. Cubans never hated Americans, they hated how American corporations treated them like slaves.

      I suggest a few articles, from Vice News though their shows on the subject are far better.

      http://www.vice.com/tag/Cuba

      http://www.vice.com/read/fidel-castro-dead-obituary

      and tell me Bill… in these pictures how they look all poor and different to us Americans today??

      • By the way change comes from within. We reign in these American corporations that keep harming people in other countries, and propping up complete assholes to rule over people with CIA money and private corporate money. the world would probably be a hell of a lot more peaceful and profitable…. Just saying. Every man women and child in this world wants the same thing we do a stable life. a roof over their head and a belly full of food.

        • I would be glad to buy you a ticket to Venezuela (they love white women there) or Cuba, or the middle east(great place for women’s rights) and remember when Russia had nukes in Cuba? Do you remember duck and cover training in grade school?

          • See here ya go starting another argument because you couldn’t finish the first.

            YOur argument is lame because it doesn’t come with an ounce of honest history behind it.

            When will you stop thinking like a tool. Do you honestly believe that our country is without blame in developing countries? Do you honestly believe it was necessary to lie and cheat our own indigenous people here in america? It is the same thing. Breaking every treaty we made with them, We did it to other indigenous people like Cubans. thinking we were better than them.

            Bigger guns do not make Americans better people, better hearts do, better minds do, better relations do. We lost that after WW2, we made hundreds of companies build better guns, and tanks, and boats. that’s what made us rich, and that’s what made us greedy.

            Everyday one of our useless politicians cry’s we need to make war somewhere so we can make more money. The truth is we do a far better Job of diplomacy in that regard. the more allied me make ourselves through peace the harder it is for people to get to us. The wall we need is diplomacy. The wall the conservatives want wont help America.

            Just ask the south who picks there food stuffs now. it is either automation or no one at all.

            Lastly, a wise man once said I love AMerica so much I have the right to call out her faults to make her better. I agree. and I have already proven it by enlisting and serving this country. Unlike a lot of you Milktoast Tuff guys. So unless your clothes have been soaked with the blood of other AMerican like me…pack you own bags Junior…cuz I am just getting started.

            • by the way did you read those articles are or you as usual just repeating Fox News????

              • Nice replies Norma.

                I love it when a bullies only answer to being called out as an uninformed windbag is, “if you don’t like this country, you are free to leave”.

                Not a chance Bill. You got your ass handed to you.
                Again.

                • Herr Furter, I think I can afford tickets for you too.

                  • How about Nicaragua or Costa Rica? Both are suppose to be lovely this time of year.

                    You got schooled you fool.

                    • But those are democracies I thought you two were socialists?

                    • Bill I am not sure you have any original thoughts.

                      To say Nicaragua is a Democracy demonstrates what little you know about the world outside your mothers basement.

                      Me a Socialist? Sure, whatever makes you warm and fuzzy.

                    • The problem with guys like Bill and other out to lunchers Montanans is that they think they know the world intimately because they spent 5 nights in Cancun and got shitfaced drinking bad blended margaritas and can now declare themselves true patriots, vote for a real ( white) American. The truth is all they get is rolled in an alley by another white tourist and a really bad hangover. Oh ya and they are still stupid.
                      n

              • I think you are giving Bill too much credit for getting his “facts” from Fox News. He seems more like an InforWars guy.

                • It is as funny as all get out listening to him though. To be honest, He hasn’t got a clue what’s outside in the real world.

      • Norma you are an effing American Heroe! And you make my chuckles and snorts while reading Bob and Swede all the merrier! Rock on sister.

  17. The black mobilized black churches with church buses in the south and east getting blacks to register and vote plus illegal Mexicans to have a win for Obama. Now, that didn’t happen for Hillary so she lost and voters seen no real platform. Now after 8 years you think you have a voice when you didn’t have under Obama. Then no voice also after many more congressional seats lost and even more seats will soon be lost and you will be more irrelevant. I highly suggest you look at a serious overhaul and think about what the voters want and not with what you think is good for the voters or you will even fall deeper into obscurity. Plus, voter registration will change for proof of citizenship for voters soon. The Republican party has woke up to listen to the voters. Bill – Out!

    • So again with the voter fraud Bill, when there is none. and when it does happen in a population of 300,000,000 plus, it is almost always from the right side?

      Illegals cant vote either Bill, So I don’t know what your talking about except complete Bull Pucky. Not until this election has there been calls of Huuuge amounts of voter fraud… and all the states that are recounting find the voter fraud is for Trump.

  18. Forgot to add and still didn’t set laid.

  19. Trump saves jobs at Carrier and he isn’t even in office, yet. But, I have heard that Donna Brazile says CNN is soon to report that no LGBT members will be allowed to be part of this..lol..just way too much BS out there. This has gone past propaganda. Makes you wonder who is the most radical, the alt left or alt right.

    • Not sure how this works as he is not president yet , I am sure that other company’s will want the same tax breaks.

    • He did not save any Jobs Bill. He didn’t follow through on his campaign promises to tariff companies who go overseas. He just went and spent spent yours and my tax money and gave more welfare to a corporation. Trump just threatened all the rest of our jobs now. Every big corporation is now gonna want the same tax breaks, and corporate welfare…..

      Congratulations for taking more money out of all Working class American Pockets!!!

    • Throughout his campaign, Trump often talked about keeping manufacturing jobs in the US, and punishing companies who ship US manufacturing jobs overseas. He used this one company in Indiana as Exhibit A of a much larger problem.

      The current deal with Carrier:
      * Is only about Carrier. It does nothing to address the larger problem.
      * Does not stop Carrier from moving jobs to Mexico. It just decreases the number of jobs that it moves right now.
      * Gives the company $7 million in tax breaks in order to get that.

      Bill, I know that you don’t like Senator Sanders, but he was proposing a bill that was much more in keeping with what Trump campaigned on. If the bill passed, companies that ship manufacturing job outside the US wouldn’t be allowed to have government contracts, their CEOs wouldn’t be able to get certain kinds of bonuses, and a few other things that I don’t remember.

      It’s a better solution because:
      * It addresses not just this one company, but also other companies like them.
      * Would still apply with the smaller number of jobs that Carrier is still planning to move to Mexico.
      * Actually costs the company something, rather than costing the taxpayers.

      The current deal looks to me like a PR move by Trump that will cost the taxpayers of Indiana $7 million.

  20. Trump saves jobs???ROTFLMAO! Drumph caved to DEMANDS that Carrier made, and used tax dollars to fund what amounts to ransom.
    http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-sanders-rips-trump-smoke-and-mirrors-carrier-deal-workers-should-be-very

  21. Illegal voters..how bad is it? .. Amnesty for illegal Hispanics, massive refugees influx all for votes with no consideration for your jobs or your safety or our economy.

    Do Illegal Votes Decide Elections?

    The Wall Street Journal

    There’s no way to know. But the evidence suggests that significant numbers of noncitizens cast ballots.

    The Justice Department has opposed every effort by states—such as Kansas, Arizona, Alabama and Georgia—to verify the citizenship of those registering to vote.

    The danger looms large in states such as California, which provides driver’s licenses to noncitizens, including those here illegally, and which also does nothing to verify citizenship during voter registration. In a 1996 House race, then-challenger Loretta Sanchez defeated incumbent Rep. Bob Dornan by under 1,000 votes. An investigation by a House committee found 624 invalid votes by noncitizens, nearly enough to overturn the result.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/do-illegal-votes-decide-elections-1480551000

    • So did you look on the top of the Page to find it is an Opinion of John Fund. A lunatic fringe writer who actually written Books with drug addict Rush Limbaugh. Who’s Books on voter fraud in 2004 was considered writers fraud. A book so filled with Half truths and lies it couldn’t make the top 100. How about the fact he is Loved by the KOCH brothers and spoke at the 2007 ALEC Annual Meeting in Philadelphia, PA, July 25 – 27, 2007. He received ALEC’s “Warren Brookes Award for journalistic excellence” in 1993. All because he writes whatever big Business tells him too.

      Do you at least try and see if the JOurnalists you link are even close to Honest. Or don’t you really care while you’re trying to put down Democrats who know what facts are….As you struggle to find someone who can argue in your stead…. Because lets face it Bill, so far… All I have seen you do is parrot right wing web sites and White Nationalists?

      Do you even have a clue what the truth is?
      John Fund is such a propagandist for corporations he has his own Page on SOurce watch: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/John_Fund

  22. Now consider 2016 when Trump proposes a way and Hillary proposes amnesty. What do you think the numbers are? And is there any consideration for our economy, jobs, and safety. Go into any large city and check out the emergency rooms for Hispanics with colds etc. Good luck if you have a serious injury. I have been there.

    An academic report published in the December 2014 issue of Electoral Studies found more than 14 percent of non-citizens in 2008 and 2010 samples reported being registered to vote.

    “Our best guess, based upon extrapolations from the portion of the sample with a verified vote, is that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in 2008 and 2.2 percent of non-citizens voted in 2010,” reported David Earnest and Jesse Richman, political science professors at Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Va.

    The data was drawn from the Cooperative Congressional Election Study, which included 32,800 observations in 2008 and 55,400 in 2010. The data pool provides “sufficient samples of the non-immigrant sub-population, with 339 non-citizen respondents in 2008 and 489 in 210,” the authors wrote.

    “Most non-citizens do not register, let alone vote. But enough do that their participation can change the outcome of close races,” the researchers wrote in the Washington Post.

    In a tight presidential contest, 2.2 percent of non-citizens voting – and certainly 6.4 percent – could make a difference in the outcome of the election. The vast majority of non-citizen votes went to Democratic candidates, according Earnest and Richman. The study does not provide definitive total vote numbers, and the study’s methodology has been criticized inside and outside the scientific community. The authors stand by their research.

  23. Do non-citizens vote in U.S. elections? A reply to our critics. (Washington Post)

    However, 10 of the 85 consistent non-citizens indicated that “I definitely voted in the General Election” in 2012: a turnout rate of 11.7 percent. Indeed, this rate is on par with the highest point estimates reported in our article, providing support for our finding that some non-citizens report voting in U.S. elections.

    https://www.judicialwatch.org/wp… (PDF)

    How many non-citizen votes were likely cast in 2008? Taking the most conservative estimate e those who both said they voted and cast a verified vote e yields a con- fidence interval based on sampling error between 0.2% and 2.8% for the portion of non-citizens participating in elections. Taking the least conservative measure e at least one indicator showed that the respondent voted e yields an estimate that between 7.9% and 14.7% percent of non-citizens voted in 2008. Since the adult noncitizen population of the United States was roughly 19.4 million (CPS, 2011), the number of non-citizen voters (including both uncertainty based on normally distributed sampling error, and the various combinations of verified and reported voting) could range from just over 38,000 at the very minimum to nearly 2.8 million at the maximum

    […]

    A similar analysis reveals that there was one House race and one Senate race during the 2008 and 2010 election cycles which were close enough for votes by non-citizens to potentially account for the entirety of the Democratic victor’s margin.

    Of course, it’s illegal and all that, but a bit more than “never” or “7”.

    • this is all Trump Propaganda Bill. FAscist Propaganda at that! Not an Ounce of fact!

      Stop repeating White nationalists?

      Do you have a brain? or are you just a puppet!

  24. I have to wonder who is paying “Bill” to post this copy-pasta wingnut talking points screed. Maybe the “big company” he’s got a 401k retirement from? Heh. Drumph just showed companies how to make him cave to their demands and get YUGE tax breaks. So much for his tough talk of tarrifs and making them pay a “damn tax”.

    • Judical Watch is another Right wing conspricy group cloaked as a pillar against what they consider Liberal Judges and Laws.

      Another group watched by “Right wing watch” as they were the Nutcases that pushed the lie that Hillary was responsible for Benghazi. Even though it has been proven the Republicans are the ones who were responsible for not allowing funds to continue to keep embassies safe. and Hillary had nothing to do with it!

  25. Just wondering HOw many more “Straw Dog” Arguments and parrot conversations Bill has in him today. since he seems to not answer for all the untruths he cant answer for now just on this one Blog Post????

  26. And your naivety will drive you into poverty if your not there already. So what are your answers. Tax big companies and let all the jobs go to Mexico. And the big companies move off shore. Mexico wages are about 3 bucks a hour. Our minimum wage then goes to $2.50?

    • They move offshore they cant sell here without imposed tariffs and they lose their American Patents.

      Talk about Naive? You are a complete Dummy! Trust me there are folks waiting in the wings of America with money that will start building factories Immediately the minute we take away the very thing that makes companies successful. Do you actually think they would leave America, without their most prized possessions, which is the Ability to sell an Object by Patent. They can take their money, their executive officers, there owners and plunk them in whatever country they wish, but the Patents become owned by the United states, and given to whoever wants to build the same products in the USA.

      After all that why a lot of people cant start here. These big companies bought up all the Existing patents. Companies that leave our country for cheaper workers should lose their American Patents. Period. They decide to stay here, and promise the jobs stay here, they keep their Patent protections.

      Most of these Big Companies stole those patents from their own american workers anyway, so Trust me it is that simple. Thats how you take care of corporations.

      From Tennis shoes to ROcket engines there is enough money left in this country to hardly skip a beat, when those greedy mother “F”ers leave.

      You have been so indoctrinated by these jerks you would believe anything. Don’t you remember who saved Wall street. It was regular folk buying up stock that went cheap. the government didn’t save them as much as white and blue collar workers did.

  27. Norma, read your own article. This criticizes Trump requiring facts to support his statement. Provides augments against studies, but provides no investigative reporting on 2016 voting. How easy is it to get a California drivers licenses bogus or real? Also, noncitizens’ driver’s licenses in California feature the phrases “Federal Limits Apply” and “not valid for official federal purposes,” and of course state officials “specifically chose not to make noncitizen license holders searchable in their DMV database.”

    Futhermore, now with Trump in office and new Supreme Court Justices and no more will the Justice Dept./Obama administration fight States voter Id laws. In fact the new Justice Dept will probably scrutinize the states voter registration procedures. No amnesty promises, no Hillary, and no more illegal Hispanic votes which will be much appreciated by the Hispanic citizens. Illegal votes will disappear faster than the Clinton Foundation donations.

  28. Keep changing the storyline Bill, YOu cant stay focused on anything long enough to put out an Original Idea…..

    It is as easy as pie to thump you man. You haven’t thought critically for yourself in years and it shows!!!

  29. Pat yourself on your back since the people / delegates spoke and are tired of listening to the same old rhetoric and career politicians bs. Especially in the blue states which you lost to Trump. Shocking that even your own disagree.

    • The people spoke and Picked Hillary Not DOnald. Get a grip Bill, she won by 2.5 million voters and the only person blocking the recount is Donald and his Brown Shirts. What dont you read?

      Hillary won the popular vote!

      • Fortunately, America is not a democracy. We are a republic. 2 million of those 2.5 million Hillary votes were in California. If we were a democracy, the most populous state in the nation would be saying “too bad America, California has you by the balls, you’re going to do what we want.” Than God we’re a republic. And that recall BS hasn’t got a chance.

        • Mrs. Clinton had received more than than 64.6 million votes in total of the USA, compared to Mr. Trump’s 62.4 million, a difference of 2.2 million. did not solely come from California so nice try again muddying the waters Republicans but Liberals are not Biting.

          BY the way Republics are not all Democracies either. The people’s republic of China is not a democracy. But is the kind of republic the right Lusts for

          So let me again explain to the simple, who did not pass High school civics of what a democracy does not entail a republic.

          If we were to Follow the republican version Of republic, Via Madisons federalist 10 writing… there would still be slave states, women wouldn’t have the right to vote, and only rich white Males who own property could vote. Because Republicans believe the Constitution Shouldn’t change from the original first written version.

          Thank goodness for reality. The most important words of the Constitution are the first ones of the preamble — “We the People.” And Madison fell far short of what constituted People. There are a number of races, and religions of people that make up the United States today that Madison didn’t consider people back then, he considered them Property. And that’s the AMerica the republicans want to go back to Madison’s REpublic.

          A democracy is a living breathing societym the Constitution a living breathing article. We live in a country that believes in changing the rules to fit the times, plus celebrating and protecting diversity and Justice for all.

        • While I have read that the United States is a republic and not a democracy, I am not sure what makes the difference. Obviously, the US is not a direct democracy where the people vote directly on each law but is it a representative democracy. I have often read that in a democracy, the majority of the population rules while in a republic, it does not.

          My problem with this distinction is as follows. Article IV, Section 4 of the US Constitution says: “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,. . .” I think it follows that Montana has a republican form of government. But Article XIV, Section 9, provides that a majority of the voters can amend the constitution and, arguably, deprive a minority of constitutional protections. It appears that 16 other states allow amendment of state constitutions by initiative.

        • Syskiyou
          You seem to think that based on where people live their vote should not count as much as yours.
          The US is actually a combination of a republic and a democracy , some issues are voted on directly by the people and others are decided by our representative form of government . Not sure what recall bs you are talking about.

  30. FYI….and TBD…to be continued and we will see…

    HOUSTON, TX. – November 27, 2016: True the Vote (TTV), the nation’s leading voters’ rights and election integrity organization, today released a statement with respect to President-Elect Donald Trump’s claim that “millions” of individuals illegally voted in the 2016 Election.
    “True the Vote absolutely supports President-elect Trump’s recent comment about the impact of illegal voting, as reflected in the national popular vote. We are still collecting data and will be for several months, but our intent is to publish a comprehensive study on the significant impact of illegal voting in all of its many forms and begin a national discussion on how voters, states, and the Trump Administration can best address this growing problem.”
    True the Vote (TTV) is an IRS-designated 501(c)(3) voters’ rights organization, founded to inspire and equip voters for involvement at every stage of our electoral process. TTV empowers organizations and individuals across the nation to actively protect the rights of legitimate voters, regardless of their political party affiliation. For more information, please visit http://www.truethevote.org.

  31. For the net-L00ns like “Bill” who need bright colors and pictures to understand.
    http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/item/messages_20161204

    • Still no Answers from any of our Questions to Bill. He just keeps throwing Propaganda on the fire of democracy like it was water, hoping to put it out!

      • Time will tell. We will see changes in the voter ID laws or not. Don’t get too confident. Now the justice dept will review possible gross violations and correct the state voter ID laws and not stonewall the states it like the current justice dept.

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