Of Course It’s Hard to Find People to Defend the Tobacco Corporations, But Still

Stephanie Lair I185 Montana

Stephanie Lair I185Not so long ago, the tobacco industry used cartoon characters,  babies, doctors and even Santa Claus to promote its cancerous products to generations of Americans who would later die of tobacco-related diseases. Today, tobacco-related disease is still the number one cause of preventible death in Montana, killing more people than homicide, suicide, car crashes, opioids, illegal drugs, and AIDs combined.

Stephanie Lair I185 Montana These days, its a lot harder to find a credible spokesperson to shill for an industry known to cause cancer, heart disease, and emphysema, so we must forgive Marlboro and Camel if they have to settle for folks who aren’t the most credible.

Some Montana newspapers have published the writings of  – Stephanie Lair, listed as a “managing partner” in “The Guardian Group LLC” who is claiming that a 33% increase in the tobacco tax to pay for health care in Montana is somehow unconstitutional.  This is a ridiculous claim, since as the Missoulian editorial board points out:

Montanans passed a previous tax on tobacco by initiative in 2004. The Montana Tobacco Sales Tax Initiative, I-149, increased tobacco taxes by 140 percent, to $1.70 per pack of cigarettes. The money raised by this tax was allocated in much the same way as the current initiative proposes: to health services, veterans’ care and the general fund. And it was passed by more than 64 percent of voters. It wasn’t unconstitutional then, and it isn’t unconstitutional now.

It turns out, the Guardian Group LLC consists entirely of Bozeman residents Stephanie Lair, her husband Mike Lair, and a member of the Montana Libertarian Party. None of the three are lawyers.  Rather, the trio are marijuana activists involved with a handful of  “businesses” the nature of which is not entirely clear.

It’s not going to surprise anyone that libertarian types hate taxes, even ones like I-185 that you don’t even pay if you don’t use tobacco.  And after word went out earlier this summer that big tobacco was looking to invest in the marijuana industry, it’s not surprising that some in the marijuana industry are eager to sell out to one of the worlds two remaining tobacco mega corporations, Altria (Phillip-Morris) and R.J. Reynolds. (Or to find ways to cozy up to the industry in hopes of finding ways profit from such transactions.)

Besides “managing partner” of TheGuardian.group, Lair is the “CEO” of MyPirl.Com a consumer complaints site which boasts “Find your Settlement Check Today!!!!” and “PIRL IS THE ONLY SITE RUN BY A GROUP OF PROFESSIONAL RESEARCH PARALEGALS.”

Stephanie Lair I 185 constitution

 

 

 

Stephanie Daniel Lair & Mike Lair run  www.SysDisrupt.com which apparently “provides risk/loss management to the Marijuana Industry nation-wide”. Like MyPirl, no one listed as involved with  SystDisrupt.com appears to be a lawyer either, although the services it provides are described as “We have been involved in hundreds of litigations to date: large billion dollar matters, all the way down to hundred thousand dollar ones–and occasionally the eighty thousand dollar one.”  

 

 

Other Lair companies appear to have no public face, including: “The One Percent Corporation” which actually appears to have been involuntarily dissolved,  and an SDL Motorsports LLC, of which no evidence of existance could be found.

Anyone who visits these legal-support themed sites will not notice some effort appears to have been taken to shroud them in a vague, back ally legalese.

Lair notes that she once “contributed to pro bono work” and even “contributed to press releases” for a group “working on a first amendment case.” The Guardian group calls itself a “firm” and lists “past cases” as if they were attorneys. Yet the nature of their involvement remains murky.

A google search of Guardian Group partner Mike Lair, of Bozeman, brings up both local and national articles about a Mike Lair, of Bozeman, who was convicted of wire fraud after that involved defrauding several law firms and was sentenced to prison. after he:

“held himself out as an executive of consumerdefense.com, Inc., also known as “CDI,” an organization that purported to do research and investigations pertaining to consumer complaints,”

To be sure, it is simply not possible to tell whether Bozemanite Mike Lair of the pseudo-legal sites TheGuardian.Group, Sysdisrupt.com, MyPirl, et al who is married Stephanie Lair is the same Bozeman Mike Lair that the New York Times and others reported was sent to prison for fraud for pseudo-legal schemes.

A New York Times article on the Lair crimes does include an interview with a Stephanie Lair of Bozeman, but the article describes Stephanie Lair as Mike Lair’s neice.

It could easily be the case that the Stephanie and Mike Lair of Bozeman in the NY Times article are two completely different sets people with the same names, living in the same town.  There could easily be two Mike Lair’s of Bozeman, one who is married to Stephanie Lair, and one who is the uncle of Stephanie Lair, both of Bozeman, and it could be just an an odd coincidence that both men are the same age and wear “a thick goatee.”

  • On sysdisrupt.com [screenshot] The business partner and husband Mike Lair says he was in high school in 1976, which means he’s around 56-58 today.
  • The Mike Lair, who appears in the New York Times article that interviews a “niece” Stephanie Lair was “46 and wears a thick goatee” in 2007 when the article was written, which means he is 56-58 today.
The twitter account of the Mike Lair married to Stephanie Lair includes several pictures.
Stephanie Lair and Mike Lair

 

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213 Comments on "Of Course It’s Hard to Find People to Defend the Tobacco Corporations, But Still"

  1. Smoke ’em if you got ’em. Cough, wheeze, hack,

  2. How poetic that it may be rec/rex MJ that pays for the sick tobacco. I would think that any self respecting libertarian would be on board ?!? Jesus, even a common sense RINO like Boehner thinks its A OK.
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/john-boehner-is-joining-a-marijuana-company-2018-04-11

  3. Car salesmen extraordinaire in Billings come to mind;)

  4. Good investigating. Now the voters need to hear the truth.

  5. Of course there is Dave Lewis, former MT budget director, who went over to the tea party & is featured on all the anti-I-149 ads. He also supported the TABOR initiative that was thrown off the ballot due to signature gathering fraud.

    • Terry knows that the Dave Lewis kicked off the ballot was not me, ex budget director. Some other guy in Billings. I suspect MEA put him up to it.

  6. if Steve Bullock lips are moving then taxes are going up. Cigs are just a smoke screen, no pun intended. Repeal and Replace Obamacare with something that works. Whats up with the Bezos-Buffett-Dimon health care venture?

    Money from I-185: Partially funds Medicaid expansion – and a lot of other programs
    Mike Dennison
    HELENA – Tobacco industry-financed TV ads attacking Initiative 185 say it doesn’t entirely fund Montana’s Medicaid expansion, potentially blows a hole in the state budget, and finances other new and existing programs.
    All of these charges are generally true – although supporters of I-185 say the charges conveniently ignore other truths that make the initiative a good deal for Montana and the state budget.

    I-185, which will be decided by voters in November, would increase state tobacco taxes by about $74 million a year, including a $2-per-pack hike on cigarettes.

    It also would commit Montana to extending and funding Medicaid expansion, which provides government-financed health coverage to 96,000 low-income adults. The program is set to expire next June.

    Two tobacco firms have put nearly $9 million into the campaign against I-185, making it the second-most expensive electoral race in Montana.

    Here’s a closer look at the charges leveled by opponents’ ads, and the contents of I-185:

    “I-185 … deceptively claims to fund Medicaid expansion, but doesn’t provide enough new revenues to pay for it.” The state’s share of the cost of Medicaid expansion, which is financed primarily by the federal government, is projected to be about $60 million a year, starting next year. I-185 designates a maximum of only $26 million a year of its revenue for Medicaid expansion, thus leading to opponents’ charge that it creates an “unfunded mandate of $34 million a year.”

    But the Bullock administration, which supports extending Medicaid expansion, says the program also saves the state about $31 million a year, by providing a better federal match for people who would be covered by Medicaid anyways.

    It also says those covered by Medicaid expansion will pay about $4.5 million a year in small premiums for their coverage. Together, these two amounts essentially erase the “unfunded mandate,” supporters on I-185 say.

    “I-185 … sends more than half (the revenue) to the general fund and existing programs.” A true statement. About 30 percent of the new revenue generated by I-185 goes to existing programs, like the Children’s Health Insurance Plan and state building construction, and just over 20 percent — $15 million a year – goes into the state treasury (the “general fund”), with no strings attached.

    About 14 percent of the money raised by I-185 — $10 million a year – also is earmarked for three new programs: In-home services for elderly, low-income Montanans, smoking prevention, and services for veterans, including anti-suicide efforts.

    But there’s one prominent aspect of Medicaid expansion not mentioned by opponents in their ads: The program will bring at least $500 million a year of federal money to Montana, to pay for medical bills for thousands of Montanans.

    Supporters say those funds improve the health of Montanans and create hundreds of new jobs, in health care and related industries.

    I-185 supporters also allege that tobacco use costs Montana hundreds of millions of dollars a year in health costs, and that raising tobacco taxes will lead to fewer people taking up smoking and thus lower health-care costs.

  7. Oh and you Green Party types you can write in your candidates name.

  8. Nice CutNpaste full of anti-185 talking points and trying to pass them off as the truth.

  9. Mike Dennison is Montana’s best political reporter we have and a straight shooter.

  10. I am definitely voting for I-185. The cigaratte industry has gotten away with shirking accountability for all the vance and healh problems it creates for too long- and they should be paying for it- not us.

  11. Lynette, I agree but I-185 is not the way to do it. This is just and excuse for government to increase our taxes. When we come up short guess who pays for it.

    just over 20 percent — $15 million a year – goes into the state treasury (the “general fund”), with no strings attached.

    “I-185 … deceptively claims to fund Medicaid expansion, but doesn’t provide enough new revenues to pay for it.” The state’s share of the cost of Medicaid expansion, which is financed primarily by the federal government, is projected to be about $60 million a year, starting next year. I-185 designates a maximum of only $26 million a year of its revenue for Medicaid expansion, thus leading to opponents’ charge that it creates an “unfunded mandate of $34 million a year.”

  12. Oh really?

    You a smoker? You Chew or dip?

  13. You know if they eliminated the funds that go into the state building fund and the 15 million dollars that go into the general fund I would consider this. This is just more tagged on pork barrel and puts more tax burden on us the tax payer for the short falls on Medicaid expansion and the Children’s Health Insurance Plan. This is all smoke and mirrors just like Bullock’s campaign vote for me promise of a property tax rebate. $15 million to the general fund would buy Bullock one hell of a nice new airplane. LOL

    “I-185 … sends more than half (the revenue) to the general fund and existing programs.” A true statement. About 30 percent of the new revenue generated by I-185 goes to existing programs, like the Children’s Health Insurance Plan and state building construction, and just over 20 percent — $15 million a year – goes into the state treasury (the “general fund”), with no strings attached.

  14. We’re all going to pay if I-185 passes
    DAVE LEWIS Aug 14, 2018
    Missoulian Guest Column
    The corporations bankrolling Initiative 185 want you to believe that only tobacco corporations will pay if their initiative passes. That’s simply not true. I-185 will create a huge, new permanent appropriation in the state budget without providing enough revenue to pay for it. That means that all Montana taxpayers will be on the hook to pay for it.

    The Affordable Care Act gave states the option of expanding Medicaid coverage to a broader population, including childless adults who are not disabled. In 2015, the Montana Legislature opted to expand Medicaid on a trial basis.

    Today, approximately one in 10 Montanans receives state-subsidized Medicaid coverage at a substantial (and increasing) cost to Montana taxpayers. The program has proven to be nearly twice as expensive as the Legislature originally estimated, and certain programs intended to help manage costs — like a work training program designed to help enrollees get off government assistance — have completely failed.

    The Legislature wisely included in the original bill a “sunset” provision so that they could evaluate overall effectiveness, control costs and discontinue the program if a better option became available. But I-185 would completely bypass this planned oversight. Without evaluation, the Medicaid expansion program will be set up to spend whatever bureaucrats deem necessary.

    I spent more than a decade as the former state budget director, responsible for balancing the state budget. From my experience, I can tell you this will be a nightmare scenario for future legislatures. As healthcare costs continue to increase and funding from tobacco taxes dries up, Medicaid expansion will turn into a runaway train that supersedes all other spending priorities for the state.

    I-185 would permanently expand Medicaid in Montana and create more than $60 million worth of spending per year. These costs will fall directly on Montana taxpayers. And though I-185 hikes taxes on tobacco products, the initiative caps the amount of this revenue allocated to Medicaid expansion at only $26 million per year. That means that all other taxpayers will be responsible for funding the $34 million shortfall. That puts existing budget priorities, like education and infrastructure, in jeopardy.

    I-185 is presented by its proponents to be an anti-smoking initiative. That, too, is deceptive, as evidenced by the fact that only 4 percent of the new revenue goes to smoking prevention and cessation programs. If this initiative was truly meant to curb smoking in the name of public health, and not just a cash grab, the drafters would have dedicated more money to these programs.

    Over time fewer people will purchase tobacco products in Montana due to this increase in price. I-185 would create a declining revenue source. Because Medicaid expansion would be a permanent program and healthcare costs are notorious for increasing rapidly, the share of the tax burden for this program will shift even more to non-tobacco users in the form of higher taxes and reduced services.

    This ballot initiative is not only deceptive and terrible public policy, it will be extremely harmful to families, small businesses and the overall economic growth of the state. I’ve gone through the numbers and I can tell you the math doesn’t add up. Medicaid expansion doesn’t pay for itself, and I-185 doesn’t pay for it. Montana taxpayers will need to pay for it. Under I-185, we’re all going to be on the hook to pay for the massive unfunded mandate created by this entitlement program.

  15. Wow, a Cut-N-Paste directly from a Montanans Against Tax Hikes ad.

    Paid for by Big Tobacco.

    You sure love them.

  16. This one is from the former state budget director:

    I spent more than a decade as the former state budget director, responsible for balancing the state budget. From my experience, I can tell you this will be a nightmare scenario for future legislatures. As healthcare costs continue to increase and funding from tobacco taxes dries up, Medicaid expansion will turn into a runaway train that supersedes all other spending priorities for the state.

  17. I know who it is from, I have seen the ads run by Citizens Against Tax Hikes and paid for by Big Tobacco.

  18. “The corporations bankrolling Initiative 185 want you to believe that only tobacco corporations will pay if their initiative passes. ”

    What Corporations?

    Support

    The top five donors contributed 71.29 percent of the total contributions to the support committee.
    Committees in support of Montana Initiative I-185
    Supporting committees Cash contributions In-kind services Cash expenditures
    Healthy Montana for I-185 $1,553,117.18 $552,942.32 $971,394.08
    Total $1,553,117.18 $552,942.32 $971,394.08

    Totals in support
    Total raised: $2,106,059.50
    Total spent: $1,524,336.40
    Top donors
    Donor Cash In-kind Total
    MHA IC to Support I-185 $1,187,000.00 $63,653.73 $1,250,653.73
    American Cancer Society Cancer Action $113,936.38 $26,738.87 $140,675.25
    Families USA Action $100,000.00 $0.00 $100,000.00
    Montana Tobacco Tax Exploration Committee $7,951.42 $85,548.58 $93,500.00
    Planned Parenthood of Montana $1,625.50 $67,430.34 $69,055.84
    Opposition
    Committees in opposition to Montana I-185
    Opposing committees Cash contributions In-kind services Cash expenditures
    Montanans Against Tax Hikes – MATH $7,700,600.00 $1,067,226.88 $3,517,116.29
    Total $7,700,600.00 $1,067,226.88 $3,517,116.29

    Totals in opposition
    Total raised: $8,841,249.16
    Total spent: $4,657,765.45
    Top donors
    Donor Cash In-kind Total
    Altria Client Services LLC $7,700,000.00[15] $1,140,649.16 $8,573,501.57
    RAI Services Company $0.00 $267,147.594 $267,147.59

    https://ballotpedia.org/Montana_I-185,_Extend_Medicaid_Expansion_and_Increase_Tobacco_Taxes_Initiative_(2018)#Campaign_finance

  19. So your saying that Dave Lewis and Mike Dennison are blowing smoke. LOL See above dummy. ‘

    I don’t care who is throwing money at this since the bottom line is the Montana tax payers get screwed. There has to be a better way to do this. Obamacare dropped you again. I have a horse I will sell you if you pay me three times for it. Same deal.

    And Jon “Maxine” Tester doesn’t understand how anyone could vote for someone like Matt Rosendale that is not from Montana. Oops, you mean like Kathleen Williams from San Fransico that graduated from U.C. Berkeley. She moved to Montana in 1995. Matte Rosendale moved to Montana in June 2002 Both Williams and Matt Rosendale got elected to office in 2010. Greg Gianforte moved to Montana in 1994. So, I guess we should vote for the Libertarian Elinor Swanson and not Williams or Gianforte. Oh, darn, Elinor Swanson is from Virginia and moved to Montana in 2015. Or should we vote for Gianforte because he has been here a year longer than Williams? LOL Idiots.

    • Eric*/Big Swede etc, you can change your screen name but your style always shines through.

      Matt Rosendale is a poor candidate and will probably lose. Greg Gianforte isn’t a great candidate and neither is Williams. Gianforte will probably win.

      • Nancy Pelosi’s bitch is not Jon “Maxine” Tester? You are kidding, Tester has received at least 81 percent of his nearly $8 million campaign war chest from sources outside Montana, an MTN analysis show. If Jon doesn’t jump how much of that money would disappear on Maxine’s the next election/primaries. LOL

        And Kathleen Williams would wants to allow individuals 55 and older to buy into Medicare, which would be the foundation to move everyone to a single-payer type of system. Also she wants to eliminate the tax cuts. I will give Kathleen credit she is setting some agenda items not just I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing (In Perfect Harmony). How do you think my wallet is going to vote?

        • I have no doubt about your choices.

          You are a vile and detestable piece of trash and fit in very well with the current crop of GOP deplorables.

          • Thank you and hugs. I was happy to share views.

            • Jon is waiting for Nancy Pelosi’s phone call.

              BILLINGS- U.S. Sen Jon Tester remains undecided on the confirmation of Judge Brett Kavanaugh to the U.S. Supreme Court following nine hours of testimony into allegations of sexual assault, according to his spokeswoman.

              • Fear not little man.

                Flake and Corker and several other weak men will do your bidding for you.

                There were several other qualified names put forth yet Trump chose a Judge for the SCOTUS that will further increase the power of the Executive Branch. Remember that next time a Democrat is elected to the WH and you start in about how they are acting like a Dictator.

                You supported that.

                • Nancy got a hold of Tester. I guess now Tester doesn’t have to worry about Nancy impacting his nearly $8 million out of state campaign war chest.

                  HELENA — Sen. Jon Tester, D-Mont., said Friday that he will vote against the confirmation of Judge Brett Kavanaugh to the U.S. Supreme Court.

                  • Explain exactly how a Representative exerts power over a Senator.

                    They don’t.

                    • You might as well ask a child, “where does the sun go at night”?

                    • DNC pulls his funds

                    • Nancy Pelosi doesn’t control the DNC.

                    • That’s what they said about Hillary

                    • That is what who said about what?

                      You hit every branch on the way down after falling out of the top of the stupid tree.

                    • Pelosi says jump, Jon says how high?

                    • For someone who doesn’t have any idea how politics works and has at best a tenuous grasp on reality, you should be careful who you call a dummy.

                      Tester voted as most of his supporters had hoped. Had he decided to vote in favor the current SCOTUS nominee, I would have cast my vote for the Libertarian or Green party candidate in November.

                      You seem to forget that office holders answer to their constituents. Typical Conservative. Ha Haaaaa.

                    • Sen. Jon Tester (D-MT) came out strongly against Brett Kavanaugh on Friday, saying he could not vote to confirm him to the Supreme Court over “concerns” about the judge’s record and the sexual assault allegations against him.

                      “I have concerns that Judge Kavanaugh defended the PATRIOT Act instead of Montanans’ privacy,” the red-state Democrat said in a statement. “I have concerns about his support for more dark money in politics. I have concerns about who he believes is in charge of making personal health decisions. And I have deep concerns about the allegations of sexual assault against Judge Kavanaugh.”

                      Tester added that Kavanaugh “couldn’t find time to discuss these concerns with me in person,” leaving him to judge the nominee on his performance in hearings before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

                      “I’ll be voting against him,” Tester said.

                      Sen. Joe Donnelly (D-IN), another red-state Democrat who voted to confirm Neil Gorsuch, also announced his plan to vote against Kavanaugh on Friday.

                    • Jon Tester voted against Gorsuch and fought for Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Any question if Jon is Shameless Liar “Crying” Chuckey Schumer and Nancy’s bitch? Politics not what is good for Montana! Keep those DNC funds coming.

                      WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Republican Donald Trump thrust the U.S. Supreme Court into the presidential campaign debate on Wednesday, rallying conservatives with a call for Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to resign after she lambasted him in a series of media interviews.

                      Other Republicans jumped to join the attack, saying Ginsburg had proven she could not be an impartial voice on the country’s highest court.

                      U.S. Sen. Jon Tester, D-Montana, defended Ginsburg.
                      Some Democrats defended Ginsburg, with U.S. Senator Jon Tester of Montana saying “she called him (Trump) for what she saw” and Senator Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota saying, “I think she’s the ultimate determiner of what’s appropriate and what isn’t.”

                    • As Montana’s Senator, one of my most important responsibilities is to advise and consent on Supreme Court nominees.

                      I took my time with this process because I believe the Supreme Court is too important to play politics with and this decision was not easy, it came with thoughtful deliberation, late nights, and the counsel of thousands of Montanans.

                      After meeting with Judge Gorsuch face-to-face, giving him a fair hearing, and reviewing his qualifications, I cannot support the confirmation of Neil Gorsuch.

                      Judge Gorsuch is a smart man but that doesn’t make him right for a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court.

                      I cannot support a nominee who refuses to answer important questions.

                      With Judge Gorsuch on the bench, I am deeply concerned that dark money will continue to drown out the voices and votes of citizens, the Court will stand between women and their doctors, and the government will reach into the private lives of law-abiding Americans.

                      These are not Montana values.

                      Lawyers with degrees from Ivy League schools often get good at dodging questions.

                      But a Judge cannot hide from his opinions.

                      Over the years, Judge Gorsuch gave corporations the same Constitutional rights as a nurse from Plentywood, a teacher from Kalispell, or a farmer from Fort Benton.

                      In the controversial Sebelius v. Hobby Lobby decision, he ruled that a corporation can have religious beliefs just like people.

                      When it comes to the letter of the law, he believes corporations are people.

                      If that were true, then I invite Wells Fargo out to my farm to spend a few long days picking rock in the fields.

                      And, according to Judge Gorsuch’s opinion in Riddle v. Hickenlooper, he believes campaign contributions deserve First Amendment protections.

                      Montanans know: money is not speech.

                      And not only does Judge Gorsuch think corporations have the same rights as people, in Hobby Lobby he decided that the rights of a corporation outweighed the rights of Montana women.

                      Montana and America deserve a Supreme Court Justice who will protect our freedom to make private health care decisions.

                      It’s clear to me that, if confirmed, Judge Gorsuch would threaten our access to a doctor and endanger the Constitutional rights of law-abiding citizens.

                      While he is good on the Second Amendment, his views on the Fourth Amendment — guaranteeing the right to privacy — should be concerning to everyone.

                      In this country, we are innocent until proven guilty and we value our civil liberties.

                      Judge Gorsuch has argued for a narrow interpretation of the Fourth Amendment which could subject Montanans to government overreach.

                      Whether it’s searching a car that was illegally pulled over or trying to meddle in a private health care decision, Montanans rightfully want to keep the government out.

                      This decision is about the future of this country.

                      I am concerned that if Judge Gorsuch is confirmed, our future will be shaped with dark money and an expanding government that violates our fundamental freedoms.

                      This is not a future that works for Montana, and I cannot support this nomination.

                      Seems A-ok to me.

                      Maybe if the GOP would have had a hearing for Merrick Garland I would feel differently.

                      I did not say a vote to confirm, I said a Hearing.

                    • “Nancy’s bitch?”

                      You seem very threatened that some women have more power than you.

                      Sounds like a mental problem to me, seek help. Ordinarily I would say I pity your wife but no woman would let you anywhere near her. Perhaps another root source of your anger towards women.

                    • so your all in for Ruth Bader Ginsburg?

                    • RBG???? All in???

                      No, she should have retired about 10 years ago.

                      SCOTUS appointments should eb for 10 years and then be re-visited.

                      Totally different subject and yet no surprise that you cannot separate the two.

                      You are in way over your head, just like your orange Cheeto and being used by the elites like a cheap sex toy.

                      Eeeeeeewwwww.

                    • I guess we will agree to disagree. Senate confirmed Gorsuch’s nomination to the Supreme Court with a 54–45 vote, with three Democrats. You lose again! Kavanaugh will be confirmed and the Dems again will be exposed for the shameful smear campaign. Some may end up in court for crimes committed.

                    • Agree to disagree? No I don’t agree to that at all.

                      You blow a lot of hot air, that is a fact.

                    • More hot air:

                      Dianne Feinstein’s office will be investigated to determine if it leaked a confidential letter from one of Brett Kavanaugh’s accusers, Sen. Tom Cotton said Sunday.

                      Cotton, an Arkansas Republican, also said lawyers recommended to Christine Blasley Ford by Democrats will face a Washington, D.C., Bar investigation for telling her that committee staffers would not travel to California to interview her about her alleged assault.

                      “They have betrayed her,” Cotton said on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” “She has been victimized by Democrats … on a search-and-destroy mission for Brett Kavanaugh.”

                      He also said Democrats would be at fault if women become less likely to report sexual assaults now because they did not keep Ford’s request confidential, as she had asked.

                      Feinstein (D-Calif.), the ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, had received a letter from Ford some months ago describing the incident with Kavanaugh, but had kept the material confidential, as requested in the letter. At some point, information about Ford was leaked to the press, though Feinstein denied that she or her office were responsible.

                    • Investigate Feinstein? Sounds like a fine idea, we need to get to the bottom of this entire episode. Meanwhile we can wait until all the answers have been revealed before moving forward on this nominee.

                      Also, if you watched the exchange between John Dickerson and Tom Cotton today, Cotton totally ducked the idea that if the current FBI investigation shows that Kavanaugh lied about his past drinking during testimony that it should be a disqualifer for him as a SCOTUS justice.

                      How about you? You OK with seating a Judge to the Highest Court if it is proven he lied to Congress while under oath? Never-mind, you support a President who lies every day of the week.

                    • And if Kavanaugh lied and if you ever get a brain. Not likely. You insist on continually reminding us you have not found Oz, yet. Must I remind you that all your old buddies, the liberal crooks, have be run out of the FBI and DOJ.

                    • Now you are just being a belligerent and obtuse idiot and making even less sense than usual.
                      You are winning Bigly.

                    • Yup and next Kavanaugh confirmed. Can’t wait to see what the FBI comes up with but you were successful in stalling for another week even though lives were messed up. I hope you are proud. You guys are doing more for getting Republicans elected than the Republicans. Great you have a voice, just to bad no one is listening to you.

                      The United States and Canada confirmed Sunday they had reached a deal on a “new, modernized trade agreement,” which is designed to replace the 1994 NAFTA pact.

                      In a joint statement the two nations said the new deal would be called the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA).

                      Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said following a cabinet meeting, “It’s a good day for Canada”

                      Trudeau plans to address the media on the deal on Monday.

                    • And lets vote for Tester and Williams to protect social security some more:

                      2019 Social Security COLA increase will be largest since 2012. Another $500 for average retiree. 2010, 2011, and 2016 0% increase, I bet they are proud and made grandma happy, thanks.

                    • Check out the news today? All Kavanaugh. NBC no mention of Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) or the Medal of Honor awarded to Army medic, ABC/CBS/CNN no Medal of Honor award coverage, and FOX show the complete award ceremony. Extreme competition on who can get beat The View for the lowest ratings. So what image are you projecting? Are you concerned? Is your circle of friends getting smaller? Do you like be aligned with Maxine Waters and Hollywood?

      • Nobody has my style – I just haven’t seen anything worth commenting on here lately.

        • That last exchange got too long to follow. I will take advantage of Eric*s silence to continue down here.

          You see this as a competition, stick to something you understand like football.

          This isn’t a game and it certainly isn’t a zero sum game except in your mind. You seem to see everything as Red VS Blue, GOP VS Dem, Conservative VS Liberal.

          The way I see it is if our politicians actually work together we all benefit.

          Of course that would mean that each side would have to compromise and give a little and to tiny little minds such as yours such things are heresy.

          As for the rest of your bullshit about today’s TV, I was working and don’t have time to flip through the boob tube to see what all the networks are doing.

          Maybe you should shut the fuck up and get a job.

        • Ok Bruce, I will do as you say and shut the f up. Please don’t beat me. LOL I know I shouldn’t have objected to your views. I will make sure this doesn’t happen again, and this is not Eric. There are many of us out here. Oh and tell your buddy George Soros he is a gutless wonder he needs to stick with his failures in the third world countries.

          • You can’t fix stupid but you can vote it out!

            • 35 days till election. Do you want Chuck Schumer as the senate majority leader and Nancy Pelosi as the House Majority Leader? Do you like the conduct of smear campaigns we are watching like Brett Kavanaugh, and Rear Admiral Ronny Jackson.

              • Look at all the Tester adds. Where is one that says what he would specifically do for Montana? Continue to ride on Trump’s and Johnny Johnny Isakson’s back for Veterans?

                Jon “broken record” Tester: I cannot support a nominee who refuses to answer important questions with Judge Gorsuch on the bench, I am deeply concerned that dark money and Judge Gorsuch has argued for a narrow interpretation of the Fourth Amendment.

                • You are now incoherently babbling and making no sense Swede.

                  • This is not Swede, and waiting for your coherent comments rebutting and not obstructing and smearing. Name calling serves no purpose. Of course I do realize you can’t teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

                    • Bruce, you sound like Tester’s ads.

                    • Whatever you say Swede, besides, you have proven you can already sing albeit very off key.

                    • This is not Swede, I am one of the other 279,240 Montana’s that voted for Trump in 2016.

                    • Back up what you say with reasoning and evidence, not the appeal to raw emotion or unsupported dogma. This means that you think for yourself, not parrot back what some news program or commentator says. This means that you do some research into the issues. Our political discourse today is marked by attacking the other person instead of disputing his/her argument. Political debate is marked by personal invective. Public issues are now framed in absolutist and simplistic terms where slogans and threats replace reason. Low information voters destroy democracy.

                    • Ohhh Windy/Swede/Counterpointed-head you are so blind to what all you have posted in the past, the comments may be locked but they are still there for anyone to read.

                      Let me put it this way.

                      Your different persona have the dubious habit of repeating your blathering pretty much word for word no matter who you are pretending to be. It is a dead giveaway…

  20. Do you know why ads about missing committee meetings are so disingenuous? Scheduling conflicts. David Parker explains, https://twitter.com/dparkermontana/status/1044936106347659265

  21. I had no idea you could pile shit that high.

  22. LOL, very profound retort…… we will see how many voters agree with you…..or not!

  23. Yes, we do need to eliminate ICE. Gee, we sure would not want to hamper drugs coming into America and Montana. LOL

    • Are you intimating that Jon Tester is calling for the elimination of ICE?

      Because I cannot locate any credible article or quote in which he has said he supports that idea.

      Does it hurt to lie as much as you do? Or do you think that because you only hint at such things then it is really not a lie? I did not watch your Pence video because the puerile stooge who at one time pretty much said Trump was not fit to be President. Pence sickens me.

      “Vice presidential nominee Mike Pence said Saturday he “cannot defend” Donald Trump’s comments about women, but was looking ahead to Trump’s debate Sunday against Hillary Clinton.

      Pence no longer will be filling in for Trump at a campaign stop in Wisconsin on Saturday, according to reports.

      “As a husband and father, I was offended by the words and actions described by Donald Trump in the 11-year-old video,” Pence said.

      “I do not condone his remarks and cannot defend them. … We pray for his family and look forward to the opportunity he has to show what is in his heart when he goes before the nation tomorrow night.”

      The Indiana governor’s comments come as many in the party are calling for Trump to step aside and have Pence become the GOP nominee.

      That is a daunting prospect, both in theory and practice, that others have said would deepen the divide with the Republican Party.”

      You sounds just like a fat orange president of a country that is and has always been great.

  24. ICE arrests 98 in North Texas and Oklahoma areas

    Most of the aliens targeted by ERO deportation officers during this operation had prior criminal histories that included convictions for the following crimes: alien smuggling, assault, burglary, dangerous drugs, discharge of a firearm, domestic violence, driving under the influence, drug trafficking, fraud, illegal entry, hit & run, homicide, larceny, lewd or lascivious acts with a minor, marijuana possession, possessing a weapon, probation violation, resisting officer, sex assault, sex offense, sex offense against a child, traffic offense and trespassing.

    Five confirmed and documented gang members were also arrested during this operation.

  25. How about this, Rosendale has learned well from Trump and Pence:

    ROSENDALE: “Jon gave his word nearly three months ago that he was going to at least take the time to meet with Judge Kavanaugh and he didn’t. He put off the meetings, he put off the meetings. At one point Jon came out and said the White House canceled the meeting then had to retract that statement,” — debate on Sept. 29.

    THE FACTS: Rosendale got it mostly wrong. Tester’s staff attempted multiple times to set up a meeting but could not agree with the White House on a date, according to emails released by Tester’s office. But Rosendale was right that Tester falsely claimed the White House canceled a meeting.

    The emails show White House staff reached out on July 24 to see if Tester was available to meet with Kavanaugh the following week.

    Tester’s scheduler instead suggested a meeting in late August and offered three possible dates.

    When White House staff didn’t take up the offer, representatives of Tester followed up at least eight times through mid-September seeking a meeting, the emails show.

    An administration official said there were attempts to accommodate senators who were possible swing votes early in the process, but as Kavanaugh’s early September Judiciary Committee hearings approached the schedule got clogged.

    “There was certainly on the White House’s part a good-faith effort to meet with any persuadable Senator,” White House spokesman Raj Shah told The Associated Press.

    On August 31, Tester said that a meeting with Kavanaugh had been scheduled but was canceled by the White House. By the next day Tester’s spokeswoman, Marnee Banks, had told reporters the Democrat misspoke. Banks said it was “an honest mistake” based on a misunderstanding between the senator and his staff.

    Without a face-to-face meeting, Tester said he made his decision on Kavanaugh based on an examination of the nominee’s record. “I had to go off the information I investigated and determined he was not a good candidate,” Tester said during Saturday’s debate.

    • Keep drinking the cool aid. More excuses to keep Chucky Schumer happy. Least he should get to read the FBI Report or will he have an excuse for that and evidently Tester felt ok voting no before the report. He also, fought for bias comments made by Ruth Bader Ginsberg. Same excuses of dark money and 4th amendment for Gorsuch and Kavenaugh and Jon is the king of dark money for all of congress. How the heck does a Montana Senator out do California and New York.

  26. So do we want to give Jon Tester another chance to vote on another Supreme Court Justice?

  27. Tester voted against Fed funds to be withheld from Sanctuary Cities, and he voted against Kate’s law. Kate Steinle was gunned down in cold blood by an illegal alien who had been previously deported five times. The law would have established mandatory minimum sentences for illegal aliens who reenter the country illegally. Is this what you want from Tester and Williams and what their party supports. Speak up and vote! 32 days.

    DOJ needs to give California $28M, judge says in immigration law ruling against Trump administration

    A law that said states and cities couldn’t keep officials from reporting people’s immigration status to U.S. authorities was struck down by a judge in California on Friday. The ruling was at least the third decision by a U.S. district court judge declaring the immigration law unconstitutional in recent months.

    Subsequently, Judge William Orrick ruled, the Department of Justice needs to give California $28 million that was held back due to the state’s immigration policies.

    The law was cited by the Trump administration earlier this year in litigation in an attempt to block multiple state laws, one of which prevented police from providing release dates and personal information of jail inmates. That information, officials claimed, was required in order to remove dangerous illegal immigrants.

    Orrick’s ruling Friday in lawsuits by California and San Francisco may be the most significant yet because it applies to a major target of the administration’s opposition to sanctuary jurisdictions. Orrick forbade Attorney General Jeff Sessions from enforcing the immigration law against California or any of its cities or counties.

  28. You sound like you are hysterical and crying.

  29. And though prosecutors believed Garcia Zarate brought the semiautomatic pistol to the waterfront on July 1, 2015, they had little evidence to counter the defense assertion that he found the gun in a T-shirt or cloth and picked it up, causing it to fire accidentally. The gun had been stolen four days earlier from the nearby parked car of a federal ranger, but the burglary remains unsolved.

    The defense had little evidence supporting its account, either, but the burden was on the prosecution to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    But while Garcia Zarate has been deported five times and has drug convictions in the U.S., he has no violent convictions. And evidence of prior criminal history — and by extension, poor character — is generally not admissible in U.S. courts, unless it is directly relevant to the current case.

    “The evidence that Kate Steinle was killed with a ricochet shot, rather than a direct shot, makes it even tougher to prove to the jury beyond a reasonable doubt that it was an intentional killing,” said attorney Jim Hammer, a former city prosecutor.

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Kate-Steinle-murder-trial-How-the-12399543.php

    • You think a Montana Jury would have decide the same? Drop her mom and dad an email and see if they agree with this BS. Or are you to spineless to take this on?

      • The Steinles probably have respect for facts and science than most of the ammosexuals in Montana do.

        I have enough respect for them and their loss to leave them alone. You obviously do not.

  30. Sanctuary cities are cities that prohibited the use of city funds to enforce federal immigration laws or to share information with federal immigration officials.

    Immigration is the job for ICE not the local police.

    I thought rightwingnuts advocated for local control of government.

    • I think for everyone of the below they should sentence 10 of you gutless wonders for accessory. Are you ready for that? Jon Tester are you proud? What would Kathleen Williams do?

      Sample of 2017:
      August 2017 — Martel Valencia-Cortez, a human smuggler from Mexico, was sentenced to eight years in American Prison for assaulting a U.S. Border Patrol agent with a rock; he was also charged with three counts of human smuggling. Valencia-Cortez has been listed as one of the most dangerous human smugglers in the San Diego area. Previous to the most recent charge, Valencia-Cortez served three years in prison for human smuggling charges and was then deported back to Mexico. (U.S. News, August 29, 2017)

      August 2017 — Thirty three-year-old nanny Lidia Quilligana, an illegal alien from Ecuador, was convicted and sentenced to fifteen years in prison for the brutal torture and abuse of three small children. Nanny cam footage caught Quilligana burning the hands and legs of the three-year-old child as well as grabbing her by the hair and hitting her in the face. The torture was described as “sustained and depraved cruelty” by the District Attorney, and the judge admitted that the sentence nowhere near fit the heinous nature of the crime. Quilligana cited her own abusive childhood in Ecuador as justification for her actions. (Newstimes, August 22, 2017)

      July 2017 — Ariel Cuellar Guizar will face thirty-one years in prison for a collection of charges relating to his activities as a human trafficker. He has been found guilty of trafficking, pimping women out to prostitution, and the rape of a fifteen-year-old girl. Guizar will also be registered as a sex offender for life. (ABC7, July 20, 2017)

      June 2017 — Vanessa Hernandez, an illegal alien from Mexico, was sentenced to 100 months in prison for importing nearly 9 pounds of methamphetamine. Hernandez is expected to face deportation proceedings after she is released from prison. (ICE.gov, June 9, 2017)

      May 2017 — Illegal alien, Edwin Velasquez Curuchiche, has been sentenced to fifty years in prison after being convicted of two counts of producing child pornography. Specifically, Curuchiche has been charged with sneaking into the room of a six year old girl and filming himself molesting her while she slept. Originally apprehended entering the country illegally in 2013, the Guatemalan national never returned for his immigration hearing and was living in the U.S. illegally at the time he assaulted the child. (Tennessean, May 15, 2017)

      May 2017 — An Uzbek refugee serving 25 years behind bars for a plot to kill U.S. military personnel or civilians has been charged with stabbing the warden at the California federal prison where he was serving his sentence, prosecutors said Thursday. (Fox News, May 27, 2017)

      May 2017 — Pasqual Mendez, 24, of Morganton, was given an active prison term of 12 to 19 years for felony human trafficking of a child, assault on a female, interfering with emergency communication and statutory rape of a child less than 15 years of age (News Herald, May 23, 2017)

      May 2017 — Oscar De La Rosa-Mendoza, 31, of Mission — a Mexican citizen who wasn’t lawfully present in the United States — pleaded guilty to driving while intoxicated, a Class B misdemeanor, on May 9. (CBS News, May 18, 2017)

      May 2017 — Carlos Santiago-Alvarez, 41, of Holyoke, was sentenced Monday to six to eight years in state prison followed by five years probation in a child rape case. (Mass Live, May 4, 2017)

      April 2017 — Ignacio Luque-Verdugo, 32, was convicted Friday in Adams County District Court of first-degree murder and attempted first-degree murder charges. (Denver Channel, April 18, 2017)

      April 2017 — Four Charlotte-area members of the El Salvadoran gang MS-13 were convicted Tuesday of federal racketeering charges. (Charlotte Observer, April 18, 2017)

      April 2017 — Pablo Gonzales Sanchez will spend at least 18 years in prison for molesting a young teenage girl an estimated 50 times. The girl’s mother, an illegal alien, has also been sentenced to prison for not reporting her daughter’s allegations of abuse. Both she and Sanchez also were ordered to be added to the Sex Offender Registry. (Shelby Star, April 11, 2017)

      April 2017 — Abdirahman P. Sahel was sentenced Monday, April 10, to 20 years in prison for sexually assaulting and terrorizing a young woman nearly four years ago. (Jamestown Sun, April 11, 2017)

      April 2017 — Gil Gaxiola was convicted of first-degree attempted murder of a National Park Service employee, as well as armed robbery, three counts of aggravated assault, kidnapping and theft of means of transportation, following an 11-day trial. (Wilcox Range News, April 1, 2017)

      March 2017 — Mexican National Miguel Rangel-Arce, 36, has been convicted of trafficking methamphetamine in New Mexico and Navajo Nation land. He will serve 10 years in prison. He is one of eight others who were charged with trafficking drugs between November 2015 and March 2016. When they were apprehended, the police also found 2 1/2 pounds of meth and 10 firearms. (Daily Times, March 8, 2017)

      February 2017 — 29-year-old Ricardo Solis Garcia was sentenced to 20-29 years in prison after being convicted of raping a 13-year-old girl in Burke County, North Carolina in March of 2015. Garcia lured the girl into his car on the pretense of giving her a ride but instead took her to a motel room where he forced her to have sex with him. Garcia will be scheduled to be deported after he has served his prison sentence. (WHKY, February 2, 2017)

      January 2017 — A Mexican illegally in the United States;, Leonard Pennelas-Escobar, was shot dead in Arizona as he assaulted a police officer by banging his head against cement after Pennelas shot and wounded the officer who had stopped to render assistance after Pennelas driving at a high speed had rolled the car killing the woman passenger.

      January 2017 — Alexis De La Rosa Sosa, an illegal alien from Mexico, was sentenced in Texas to four concurrent terms of 12 years in prison for the deaths of two persons as a result of his crashing into their vehicle while driving recklessly and then fleeing the scene of the crime. (Breitbart News, January 11, 2017)

      This is just 2017:
      November 2016 — A Mexican illegal alien , Claudia Raquel Herrera Ibarra, pled guilty to possession of a firearm in Laredo Texas and was sentenced to three years imprisonment. She and a partner were caught smuggling weapons to the violent “Los Zetas” narcotics smuggling gang in Mexico. (Breibert News, November 30, 2016)

      October 2016 — A previously deported illegal alien is jailed in Michigan after admitting to strangling his girlfriend. Raul Perez had been deported to Mexico in 2004 and again in 2005 after a judge found him guilty of illegal reentry. He also had been in police custody five days before the murder for driving under the influence. The local authorities established his identity from his fingerprints – he was using an assumed name – but according to a news account – there was no request from ICE that he be detained (perhaps because he was detained on a weekend). ICE has now issued a detainer request for whenever Perez is released. (WoodTV, Channel 8, Grand Rapids Mich.)

      September 2016 — Cecil Burrows, an immigrant from India, is due to be deported following more than three years imprisonment for his involvement in orchestrating a gang rape in his home in 2012. (Washington Post, September 25, 2016)

      September 2016 — A British illegal alien, Michael Steven Sandford, pled guilty in Nevada to possession of a gun—that he tried to take from a policeman – and disrupting and official function—a campaign rally by GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump. Sandford said he was attempting to kill the candidate. A psychiatrist found that Sandford was “delusional” according to an AP report. Sentencing guidelines call for 18 to 27 months in prison. (Daily News. September 13, 2016)

      September 2016 — September 2016 – Jorge Elizade Sanches, an illegal alien confessed to the beating death of his common-law spouse in Texas. (12newsnow.tv September 15, 2016)

      September 2016 — September 2016 – Walter Gomes DaSilva, a Brazilian illegal alien, pled guilty to the murder of his teen-aged daughter in Massachusetts. (Boston Herald, September 7, 2016)

      September 2016 — September 2016 – Ecuadorian illegal aliens, Paul Esteban Estrella Villota and his wife Magaly Alemania Malagon Sandoya were respectively sentenced in Texas to six and five years respectively in federal prison for an alien smuggling operation. (Breibart News September 7, 2016)

      August 2016 — Two Salvadoran illegal alien gang members were convicted of murder in the Virginia suburbs of Washington DC. Jose Lopez Torres was convicted of a brutal stabbing death of another MS-13 gang member suspected of being an informer. He was sentenced to life imprisonment plus 20 years. According to the Washington Post, “His conviction was part of a sweeping federal case against Northern Virginia members of the El Salvador-based gang, in which six defendants pleaded guilty and six more were found guilty at trial.” The other just convicted Salvadoran was Jesus Alejandro Chavez, who was sentenced to two life terms plus 10 years for two murders. (Washington Post, August 11, 2016)

      July 2016 — Mauricio Morales-Caceres, an illegal alien from El Salvador was sentenced in Montgomery County, Maryland to life in prison without parole for the stabbing death of another Salvadoran. Morales identified himself as an MS-13 gang member, and testimony indicated he had no remorse for his crime. (Washington Post July 15, 2016)

      June 2016 — Aroldo Castillo-Serrano, a Guatemalan illegal alien, was sentence to 15 years in prison in Ohio for forced labor conspiracy, forced labor, witness tampering and encouraging illegal entry into the country. Castillo paid smugglers to smuggle teen-aged Guatemalan youth into the country under the promise of getting them into school and then put them to work as indentured servants in an egg farm. (Fox News Latino, June 27, 2016)

      June 2016 — A Mexican illegal alien, Juan Carlos Sepulveda-Castro, was sentenced to two and one half years in prison in Idaho for threatening people with an assault rifle. The news report notes that illegal aliens are prohibited from possessing a firearm. (Pocatello TV channel 8)

      June 2016 — Eleven illegal alien members of the Salvadoran MS-13 gang have been convicted of a series of crimes including murder. Jorge Enrique Moreno-Aguilar, Juan Alberto Ortiz-Orellana and Minor Perez, all from Maryland were convicted in mid-May of murder and conspiracy in a racketeering enterprise. (MRC-TV May 24, 2016) New Jersey gang members Santos Reyes-Villatoro, Mario Oliva, Roberto Contreras, Julian Moz-Aguilar, Hugo Palencia, Jose Garcia, Cruz Flores, and Esau Ramirez were convicted in late May in New Jersey of various murder, racketeering and firearms crimes. (MRC-TV, June 2, 2016)

      May 2016 — Illegal aliens, Reinol Vergara and Edson Benitez, pled guilty to second degree murder for the death of a 90 year-old Minnesota man they beat and tied up while they stole from his home, leaving him to bleed to death. (Breibart News May 11, 2016)

      April 2016 — A Salvadoran illegal alien, Mauricio Morales-Caceres, was convicted of first degree murder in Maryland and sentenced to life imprisonment. (Washington Post, April 30, 2016)

      March 2016 — Juan Razo, a Mexican illegal alien living in Painesville, Ohio, agreed to plead guilty to a crime spree that included the shooting death of a 60-year old woman, attempted rape of a 14-year old girl, kidnapping and burglary. His plea was to avoid the death penalty and accept a life sentence. (Cleveland.com, March 4, 2016)

      February 2016 — Three illegal aliens from Mexico were sentenced to federal prison for alien smuggling and illegally re-entering the U.S. after previous deportations. One man was sentenced to 57 months, another will serve 24 months, and the last man was sentenced to serve 12 months and one day in prison. (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, February 2, 2016)

      January 2016 — An illegal alien from Mexico was sentenced to nearly 6 years in prison after having been convicted for transporting illegal aliens, which resulted in the death of two illegal aliens. (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, January 20, 2016)

  31. Do we have to wait till this happens to a Montana son or daughter for you come around? No way in hell I would vote for Tester or Williams if there was one iota of a chance they would support anything to promote this. Would you? Tester has already block funding.

    Do you read the news?
    A 24-year-old man described as an illegal immigrant from Mexico was charged with murder on Tuesday after he led detectives to the body of a woman, Mollie Tibbits, age 20, believed to be that of a college student, Mollie Tibbitts, age 20, who went missing, in an Iowa cornfield.

    • Mollie’s Dad described Hispanics (not all undocumented immigrants are from Mexico. Racists just use that as a catchall) as Iowans with better tasting food.

  32. On second thought we have already lost too many:

    Mexican drug cartels saturate U.S. with deadliest meth ever

    While Louisville frantically tries to rescue residents from heroin, fentanyl and pain pills, another drug is creeping back to prominence.

    Crystal meth.

    From the periphery of the heroin and opioid crisis, it has quietly helped drive up the death toll in the city and across the nation.

    The drug became popular decades ago because it offered a quick rush and a jolt of energy. And it could be made through a simple but dangerous process of mixing easy-to-get ingredients, including items on drug store shelves.

    At its height a decade ago, Louisville police were discovering local meth labs multiple times a week — sometimes after someone was burned or killed from a fire or explosion.

    Those hazards have lessened in the past few years, with fewer local labs. Today’s meth is cheaper, easier to get — and more lethal.

    “It’s deadlier than the public perceives,” said Russell Coleman, the U.S. attorney for the Western District of Kentucky and a former FBI agent who has worked drug cases.

    Most of it is being made in Mexico by cartels. And sometimes its secretly mixed with fentanyl, which is even deadlier than heroin.

  33. CNN ratings dip 41% over yr., Fox News #1 for 35 straight wks. ROLF Were you on the Supreme Court House steps today? Are you standing on the corner with the signs at the republican candidate campaign events. Cool, let your neighbors know what drives you. Everyone need a good laugh. Thanks

    • This has just as much relevance.

      Most dog owners have probably been puzzled (and possibly impatient) waiting for their dog to do its business. Instead of just finding a soft area of grass to go number two, they make a whole ritual out of it, spinning in a circle before finally squatting. Luckily, the ultimate pet owners’ question may finally have been answered.

      A few theories have circulated about why dogs might circle before pooping, and most are similar to the reasons they spin before lying down. Trampling around in a circle would flatten the grass around, which would keep tall blades from trapping their waste and hitting their tushes while they poop (yuck). Another explanation could be that they’re scanning for snakes and predators before they become completely occupied.

      But Czech researcher Hynek Burda didn’t quite buy into those theories. Dogs evolved from wolves, which didn’t need to worry much about tall grass. And if they were scanning their environment, keeping still to listen and sniff would be more effective than giving the area a quick once-over. Instead, Burda suggested that dogs spin to get a feel for the Earth’s magnetic pull. Here are 16 more ways your dog is smarter than you think.

      The Earth has a magnetic field around it protecting it from radiation from space, and some animals seem to use it to get a sense of where its North ad South poles are. For instance, it’s how birds know which way to migrate. In 2013, Burda published a study in the journal Frontiers in Zoology suggesting dogs have a strong internal compass, too. He and his team spent two years watching 70 dogs poop and pee and recording which way they faced and how strong the magnetic field was. (And when they’re done, this is why dogs kick up the lawn after they pee.)

      As it turns out, when the magnetic field was calm (which it is about 20 percent of the time when it’s light out), dogs preferred to poop facing either north or south. When the magnetic field was less stable, they faced any ol’ way. The pattern couldn’t explain why dogs like facing the Earth’s poles, but the researchers think it might help them remember where they marked their territory. ‘Doing so, and/or calibrating his magnetic compass, is probably easier for him when being aligned with the magnetic field,’ Burda told the Washington Post.

      If they can remember which way they were facing, they might find it easier to find that spot again. So before you roll your eyes when your dog takes ages to do his business, remember that Fido might just be getting scientific about his potty spot.

  34. I have feeling that if all the undocumented workers in the food production industry were immediately shipped out of this country every bit of food you eat from the grocery store and restaurants would double in price. These farmers vote for Republicans and support “the wall” but depend on workers they claim to not want here.

    “Other dairy farmers in the area helped me understand why the Nunes family might be so secretive about the farm: Midwestern dairies tend to run on undocumented labor. The northwest-Iowa dairy community is small. Most of the farmers know one another, and most belong to a regional trade group called the Western Iowa Dairy Alliance (though WIDA told me NuStar is not a member). One dairy farmer said that the threat of raids from ICE is so acute that WIDA members have discussed forming a NATO-like pact that would treat a raid on one dairy as a raid on all of them. The other pact members would provide labor to the raided dairy until it got back on its feet.

    In every conversation I had with dairy farmers and industry insiders in northwest Iowa, it was taken as a fact that the local dairies are wholly dependent on undocumented labor. The low unemployment rate (it’s 2 percent in Osceola County), the low profit margins in the dairy business, and the global glut of milk that keeps prices low make hiring outside of the readily available pool of immigrants from Mexico and Guatemala unthinkable.

    “Eighty percent of the Latino population out here in northwest Iowa is undocumented,” estimated one dairy farmer in the area who knows the Nunes family and often sees them while buying hay in nearby Rock Valley. “It would be great if we had enough unemployed Americans in northwest Iowa to milk the cows. But there’s just not. We have a very tight labor pool around here.” This person said the system was broken, leaving dairy farmers no choice. “I would love it if all my guys could be legal.”

    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a23471864/devin-nunes-family-farm-iowa-california/

    • Doug while I give you an E for effort, your arguments no matter how well reasoned will fall on a deaf ear.

      CP/Windy/Swede is not interested in facts in the least. They just make him hysterical and cause him to weep like a child.

    • Then we need a immigration policy that works which is what this administration will accomplish and the last administration left a total mess. What do you propose, stop the wall, eliminate Ice, Sanctuary cities. over look illegal aliens/criminals to enter our county for farm work or have a immigration program that works? There is no such thing as a undocumented aliens, they are illegal aliens.

      • You simpleton, Dems and the GOP have BOTH been kicking that can down the road since the last Immigration reform.

        Most Americans on both sides of the aisle agree that reform is needed. Both parties are sacred to death of it.

        “The most recent major immigration reform enacted in the United States, the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, made it illegal to hire or recruit illegal immigrants. The law did not provide a legal way for the great number of low-skilled workers wishing to enter the United States. Following this 1986 law, almost 12 million undocumented workers came illegally across the U.S. border. It was estimated that this illegal workforce made up about five percent of the U.S. workforce. It was also estimated that about 70 percent of those illegal workers were from Mexico.[9]

        Former Mexican president Vicente Fox wrote that, in 2001, President George W. Bush and the leadership of both parties of Congress were ready to pass significant immigration reform legislation benefiting Mexican emigration to the U.S.[10] The immigration reform which Bush and Fox hoped for was put on hold after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.[11]

        In 2005, the U.S. House of Representatives passed the Border Protection, Anti-terrorism, and Illegal Immigration Control Act of 2005, and in 2006 the U.S. Senate passed the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006. Neither bill became law because their differences could not be reconciled in conference committee.[12] The legislative negotiations and national activism behind immigration reform from 2001 to 2007 is the subject of the 12-part documentary film series How Democracy Works Now.

        In 2009, immigration reform became a hot topic again since the Barack Obama administration signaled interest in beginning a discussion on comprehensive immigration reform before that year’s end.[13][14] The proposed comprehensive immigration reform plan had bipartisan support as one of its goals, and included six sections designed to have “something for everyone”. These six sections were:

        to fix border enforcement,
        “interior enforcement”, such as preventing visa overstays,
        preventing people from working without a work permit,
        creating a committee to adapt the number of visas available to changing economic times,
        a program to provide a path to legal status for illegal immigrants, and
        programs to help immigrants adjust to life in the United States.[15]

        Individual states can regulate or produce immigration policies.[16] ”

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_reform_in_the_United_States

        Spare me your self-righteous indignation.

  35. Undocumented aliens is a term to justify open boarders.

  36. Here is one more big kick down the road for you:

    Kathleen Williams did vote twice against House HB 50, Prohibit immigration anticooperation policies by local governments and HB 492 to Prohibit immigration sanctuary policies by local governments.

    Several red state Democrats, such as Sens. Joe Donnelly (D-IN), Joe Manchin (D-WV), and Claire McCaskill (D-MO), joined Republicans to end federal funding for sanctuary cities. Instead, Tester did not join the red state Democrats and voted with Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) to protect sanctuary cities.

    • Open Boarders?????

      Bwhahahahahahahahahahahhahahaahha

    • This is a very long article and contains a lot of words.

      If you can manage it, give it a read and then get back to me.

      https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a23471864/devin-nunes-family-farm-iowa-california/

      • Couldn’t manage to read it eh????

        Cliff Notes version.

        The GOPs most vocal Senator when it comes to Illegal Immigration, Steve King ignores the fact that 80% of the labor to run the Dairy Operations in his State (Iowa) are Illegals and everyone there knows it and turns a blind eye because, hey these folks are actually good and hardworking people and if we had to pay a few dollars an hour to attract legal labor we would go bankrupt.

        And further, Trumps favorite little Toady, Devin Nunes has in interest in his family’s farm that moved from California to Iowa several years ago and that family doesn’t want reporters snooping around their operation because, well it wouldn’t look good politically.

        Both parties are complicit but the GOP are the worst at it because it is all about them using cheaper illegal labor while bashing the very people that help them to make a living.

        So CP/Swede/Windy, what say you???

  37. Dark Money.
    Seems the folks in Rosy’s and Gianfart’s campaigns are a bit nervous. Been getting lots of calls from SSI polling: https://thinkprogress.org/dirty-tricks-mysterious-conservative-group-sending-out-push-polls-in-south-carolina-special-election-8835ed5bc0a2/
    406-559-3116
    406-559-3117
    406-559-3118
    406-797-5175
    What a bunch of cowards. Need to spoof local numbers to get those phones answered and smear their BS upon the populace. Funny, have yet to receive the same sort of crap from Tester or Williams. No joke, history is a circle, the days of William Andrews Clark are upon us again. Tell the out of state carpet baggers to F OFF! Vote YES I185, I186.

  38. Push Polls, never heard of this one, but almost as bad as Tester’s unverified and false allegations against Radm Jackson or the 2012 hunters-and-anglers group sympathetic to Democratic U.S. Sen. Jon Tester that spent $500,000 on a new TV ad in his Senate race — telling voters to support the Libertarian candidate, Dan Cox. Note this is the same group that Kathleen brags about that she says supports her. Sportsmen’s group has ties to ‘fringe environmentalists’ see link below.

    https://missoulian.com/news/opinion/mailbag/sportsmen-s-group-has-ties-to-fringe-environmentalists/article_b78d8d73-32e0-59b5-b2c7-163649f03906.html

    https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/group-sympathetic-to-tester-drops-k-on-tv-ad-for/article_44197da9-b6d2-5e8a-ae05-7442aef0a45d.html

    Yes, out of state carpetbaggers like University of California Berkeley Graduate Kathleen Williams. Gianforte has lived in the state one year longer than William so with your logic we have to vote for Gianforte? LOL

    Vote no on I-185 as big increase in taxes and another push toward single payer health care. Repeal and Replace. Vote No on I-186 as more regulations to stifle Montana’s economy and to justify environmental extremists to support their wages and McMansions.

  39. Then there is this one too:
    Q2 reports that about 90,000 Montanans recently received partially filled out absentee ballot registration forms from a group called the “New American Jobs Fund,” a partnership between the League of Conservation Voters and United Steelworkers Union. Their reported goal is to make voting easier, according to press secretary Alyssa Roberts of the League of Conservation Voters, who says all of the information preemptively filled out on the forms come from the Montana Secretary of State’s public voter file and is legitimate and legal. If you do receive one, and choose to fill it out, she says to return it to your local county election office. The League of Conservation Voters has endorsed Democratic incumbent Jon Tester over Republican Matt Rosendale.

  40. I guess ethics is not your concern? Why does is always seem that only the Dem’s seem to find away around these thing? These ballots are legal to use to vote. How many will be confused and votes twice then get in trouble?

    • Encouraging people to vote is unethical? Did you look at the photo in the article? Apparently not. It’s not a ballot.

    • Check out Ted Cruz’s phony court summons.

      “A “summons” letter from U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz’s re-election campaign that has landed in Central Texas mailboxes in recent days has reignited the debate about what qualifies as a deceptive and illegal fundraising practice.

      Austin resident Sean Owen shared on Twitter Saturday such a letter from the Cruz campaign addressed to his grandmother. “Official Travis County Summons,” “Voter Enrollment Campaign Division” and “Ted Cruz for Senate 2018” span three lines on the top left side of the envelope.

      “SUMMONS ENCLOSED – OPEN IMMEDIATELY,” states the middle of the envelope.

      The letter offers a spot to check only one box, which reads “YES, Senator Cruz! I am answering your summons to join your re-election campaign today!” Owen revealed in a follow-up Twitter post.

      Members of Cruz’s press team did not respond to requests for comment Monday. A spokesman for Cruz’s Democratic rival U.S. Rep. Beto O’Rourke, D-El Paso, also did not respond to a request for comment.

      PolitiFact Texas, a fact-checking news organization operated by the American-Statesman, found that a similar mailer sent to someone in Kerr County might have been deceptive, but not illegal under federal law.”

      https://www.statesman.com/news/20180917/is-ted-cruzs-summons-letter-deceptive-illegal-or-fair-play

      Tell me again about how concerned you are about ethics when your own team is pulling this shit.

    • 13 Million spent by Dark Money Groups for Rosendale VS 8 Million spent for Tester.

      And you worry about some ballots encouraging people to get out and do their civic duty.

      Methinks you would like less people to vote, especially if they might not favor your guy.

      • And you ever going to get back on your anti-immigration screed since you have gotten your ass handed to you?

        • Ya, you bet buddy…..

          • Whats the matter ya big baby, did the GOPutin change your talking points again? It must be hard to keep up.

            • No change in agenda here, promise made, promise keep. I am still trying to figure out your agenda, Open borders (more voters), eliminate ice, Sanctuary cities, massive refugees (more votes), votes are more important than safety or law enforcement, federal judges that legislate from the bench, eliminate tax cuts, heck with tariffs, ban all guns and rocks, return to veteran care of the Obama/Tester year, single payer health care even though Colorado, New York, and Vermont, California have learned it is prohibitively expensive, let medical and pharmaceuticals have a monopoly and gov run health care(big donations for campaigns). tax the hell out of the rich(move more money off shore), Korea launching rockets again, collapse job growth and the stock market. Yes, vote for Jon “Maxine” Tester and Kathleen “UC Berkeley” Williams. So you want Schumer and Pelosi in charge of the senate and the house? Walks like a duck and votes like a duck…..

              • And just exactly whose agenda is that?

                Oh right that mythical mob of angry far left Democrats?

                All I can get from your ranting is that you seem to have something against Ducks.

              • This is like a sore loser knocking a board game and all the pieces onto the floor when they have their ass handed to them.

                • Did Hillary win and nobody tell me? I am wrong or are there not two new supreme court justices confirmed,22 successfully appointed appeals court judges and 43 federal judges? I guess all those protesters are just celebrating all there victories. Ya been screaming at the clouds lately?

                  • She won the popular vote proving the polls to be correct. You can’t poll the members of the Electoral College until election day.

                    Amazing what happens when the Republican’t party refuses to confirm, let alone have hearings (cough Merrick Garland cough) to fill open seats, when the President is a black man from the Democratic Party.

                    • Bernie should have been the candidate.

                      We better learn to live in the now, where Clinton only won California because Trump didn’t need it and didn’t campaign there.

                      Thanks to Feinstein we are about to get our asses handed to us next month and we deserve it.

                      This is supposed to be a liberal blog but it hasn’t done shit for any of our candidates.

                  • You change tack and the subject more often than a sailboat beating upwind. I am sure that in that tiny and cobweb filled mind of yours all this makes perfect sense, just like Donald Trump you have shown that you have the logic and reasoning of an advanced stage Syphilitic.

                    • We need smaller fish or a bigger barrel.

                    • I am more than willing to discuss anything with anyone. When they go into regurgitation mode or start making wild claims without anything to back them up I tend toward ridicule. CP/Swede/Windy crossed into that territory a long time ago.

  41. Here are the justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Elena Kagan that Tester and Williams support.

    The Supreme Court ruled this week to uphold a North Dakota voter identification law which requires that voters present an ID which includes a residential address in order to vote.

    The Eighth Circuit overturned that ruling, and the Supreme Court upheld the circuit court’s decision, with only Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Elena Kagan dissenting. The two noted Tin their dissent that this ruling was confusing because voters who used their identification to vote in the primaries could now find that same identification insufficient, because “the injunction against requiring residential-address identification was in force during the primary election and because the secretary of state’s website announced for months the ID requirements as they existed under that injunction.”

  42. You whiny ignorant fks are really getting on my nerves. Do your homework before you jump on some idiot from California liberal talking points. These are requirements for residency, Montana identification card, Drivers Licenses and voter registration.

  43. “Mr. Rosendale, a Maryland native, is such a meanspirited flake that my Republican father, a guy who wants his ashes shot out of a cannon he built from scratch in his backyard gun shop, plans to vote for Senator Tester, a Democrat. According to Dad, a Gallatin County voter, Mr. Tester, a second-term senator and third-generation farmer from Big Sandy, is “a Montanan who understands Montana.” At least I think that’s what he said. Once he told my mother and me he was voting for a Democrat I was distracted by determining if Mom needed medical attention.

    snip…

    There is obvious wisdom in an agricultural state electing a farmer such as Mr. Tester as its senator. But before he turned his full attention to managing his grandparents’ homestead, Senator Tester was a public school music teacher in his central Montana hometown. As a constituent who was partly raised by the music teachers of Bozeman’s public schools, I know that it also makes sense, given the cacophony of the United States Congress, to dispatch a Montanan to Washington who knows how to inspire a bunch of squirrelly kids to work together, keep the beat and harmonize.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/12/opinion/sunday/jon-tester-democrat-montana-senate-west.html

  44. So where does this leave your bozangles neighbor Kathleen Williams from San Francisco that graduated from U.C. Berkeley and she moved to Montana in 1995.

  45. Your link, New Your Times, really:

    Go ask a veteran about what he thinks about Tester, Be careful you don’t get your head bit off. Where was Tester for veterans during the 8 yrs of Obama? Now Trump is in office he claims he is veterans best friend. Gutless wonder and embarrassing. I am a veteran and keep him out of my face. I don’t even want to get in the easily proven false allegations against Rear Adm. Ronny Jackson. Proven Schumer bitch.

    • Yet you support a weasel who ducked service in Vietnam because of Bone Spurs, 4 times.

    • Obama signed the Veteran’s Choice Act in 2014. The one that tRump keeps taking credit for. Tester’s been working hard for Vets for years. You could check his record but you’re too interested in lying.

      I am a veteran, just not a vet that’s an asshole.

      • P.S. No surprise you attack the NYT, rightwingnut 101 response when you don’t have a cogent ‘counterpoint’.

        Apparently you missed the fact that the author is a constituent of Jon Tester’s.

        • Yes, so impressed, oh ya, what about the Veterans Health Administration scandal of 2014.

          • “Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent’s position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument,[1][2][3] which in the United States is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.[4][5][6] When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union during the Cold War, the Soviet response would often be “What about…” followed by an event in the Western world.[7][8][9]”

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

  46. President Donald Trump signed a bill into law Wednesday that will give veterans more freedom to see doctors outside the troubled Veterans Affairs system, a major shift aimed at reducing wait times and improving care by steering more patients to the private sector.

    The measure builds on legislation passed in 2014 in response to a wait-time scandal at the Phoenix VA medical center, where some veterans died while waiting months for appointments.

    The legislation would loosen Choice’s restrictions that limit outside care to only when a veteran must wait 30 days for an appointment or drive more than 40 miles to a VA facility. Currently, more than 30 percent of VA appointments are in the private sector.

    Veterans groups cheered the legislation as major step toward improving veterans care.

    • Jon Tester was one of the sponsors that wrote the bill.

      • Game, set & match.

        CP you really should quit while you are behind. It must be painful to step on your own dick so much.

        Doug just handed you your ass wrapped up nicely with a bow around it.

        • Did you see Tester at the signing? No. Parasite Tester riding on the backs to claim some votes. I also got some land for sale for you guys in Florida.

          “Let me be clear: Standing alongside The American Legion and millions of veterans across this country, I will always fight every attempt to privatize the VA,” Tester told attendees at the Washington Conference’s Commander’s Call on Feb. 27. “To those special interests that want to put the VA on a path to privatization, I have just one message: You’re going to have to get past me and past the hundreds of veterans in this room before you’re able to do that.”

  47. Dude, just pick your ass up and walk away quietly.

    All you are doing is demonstrating how little you comprehend.

  48. Trump is coming to Zootown for the third time in Montana and Donald Jr and Pence here so where are Schumer, Pelosi, Obama, Biden, and Hillary or are they to busy stuffing their pockets or would it actually hurt Tester and Williams. Not like they are all that busy like Trump. Are Tester and Williams embarrassed by their parties agenda that they support? What is their agenda? Are they to busy obstructing so screw their candidates or just lazy. What’s up?

  49. “Not like they are all that busy like Trump.”

    If that was some sarcasm, ok I laughed.

    If you are serious you are hopeless.

    Why the reason for all the attention being paid to Montana?

    Could it be that the Trump Cabal is afraid that Rosendale will get his ass as kicked as you and yours?

    Desperation shows from a million miles.

  50. Wouldn’t you be concerned if there was a very remote chance of Nancy Pelosi being speaker of the house or Chucky Schumber senate majority lead.

  51. But of course Schumer, Pelosi, Obama, Biden, and Hillary don’t seem to give a rats butt. Hillary does seem a bit concerned but then again she really doesn’t want to go to jail. The Dems would stop all investigations.

    • The Clintons have been investigation in one form or another since 1991. Unfounded allegations and conspiracy theories-too many to count.

      Indictments-zero.

      • It is just like with the Right Wing and G.Soros.

        Small minded little men need a Bogeyman to assign their fears and explain to themselves why they are such losers in life.

  52. More of the Clintons:

    Hillary Clinton, in a television interview Tuesday, rejected the idea that Democrats should be “civil” with Republicans in the age of Donald Trump, embracing a more confrontational and aggressive political approach.

    “You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about,” Clinton said.

    • Shouldn’t that read, Moron the Clintons?

      I happen to disagree with Clinton on many things including that one.

      Intelligent Americans are getting sick of the BS the Trump wing of the GOP has been doing. Given the time they will appreciate and support well reasoned and civil discussion.

      You on the other hand.

  53. ‘We Are Not Civil’: Vandals Smash Windows, Spray Paint Doors of NYC GOP Office

    On Thursday night, the New York City office for the state’s Republican Party was vandalized, complete with a message threatening violence against the GOP.

    The Metropolitan Republican Club’s windows were smashed, its locks were broken and its doors were spray painted with anarchy symbols.

    A note left behind at the building read that the attack was putting the Republican Party “on notice.”

    “Our attack is merely a beginning. We are not passive, we are not civil, and we will not apologize,” it stated.

    • I read that the vandals have been apprehended and it turns out they are a much further far right wing of the GOP who are disappointed in how weak the GOP is and how passive they are when dealing with Democrats.

      Serious Dude, get a grip. You can play all the scare cards you want but nothing is more frightening to most sane people than what Trump and the GOP have done since he was sworn in.

      I don’t pretend to know what will happen in November, I do know that if the future was so solid for Trump, Rosendale and the nutjobs like you then Trump would not be spending so much time in Montana campaigning. Especially when you have a region devastated by Hurricanes and so much other work that really needs to be done. Between Golf and rallies Trump barely shows up for work anymore.

      I guess there is a bright side to campaign season.

      You continue to be very entertaining.

    • Several members of the extremist hate group Proud Boys kicked and pummeled a small group of antifascist protesters Friday night outside an Upper East Side Manhattan club where Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes had delivered a speech.

      During the melee, which was captured on video and in photos posted to social media, Proud Boys members dressed in black polo shirts yelled homophobic slurs as they attacked at least three protesters. Several Proud Boys can be seen kicking their victims after they had been knocked to the ground.

      The fight broke out just minutes after about 30 Proud Boys left the Metropolitan Republican Club, where McInnes re-enacted the “inspiring moment” a Japanese ultranationalist assassinated the head of the Japanese Socialist Party with a samurai sword on Oct. 12, 1960, according to a post on McInnes’ Instagram.

      https://splinternews.com/pro-trump-proud-boys-mob-beats-up-protesters-outside-1829732540

      Proud Boys are nothing but a group of thugs that has been correctly identified as a hate group. They have no redeemable purpose. They are no different than Hitler’s Brownshirts.

  54. So what would you do if someone knocked your hat off? I know what would happen in any town in Montana…….including a ladies hat and god help them if a guy is with her, but she will hold her own. lol

    From your link:
    The HuffPost report said the fight broke out after protesters knocked a “Make America Great Again” hat off a Proud Boy’s head.

  55. “So what would you do if someone knocked your hat off? ”

    Well, I probably wouldn’t be running around with a gang of thugs and attending a White Power rally in the 1st place.

    Sounds like you need to belong to a gang to feel empowered.

    Sucks to be you.

  56. You opened this can of worms, now what are you going to do? I can see a bunch of 20 year olds guys watching historic building in New York getting window smashed and spray painted, Portland downtown traffic getting harassed and then the decide enough is enough and now decide to go kick some butt. I guess the Antifa / snowflakes can’t run rampant anymore.

    Eric Holder: ‘When they go low, we kick them; Cory Booker to condemn this behavior from liberals. Cory Booker “call to action” “get up in the face of some congresspeople.”; Hillary Clinton “You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about,”; Maxine Waters, Attack trump supporters.

    Boy, I can see MAGA hat sales explode now.
    The HuffPost report said the fight broke out after protesters knocked a “Make America Great Again” hat off a Proud Boy’s head.

    • The GOP ad you’re citing in your 2nd paragraph uses footage from Canada.

      https://twitter.com/jbillinson/status/1051516818916020225

      antifa=anti fascist. But do go on defending fascist mobs like the Proud Boys.

      • Get real. Who are the real fascists? Berkeley and all the property damage and assaults. Antifa are the Fascists.
        Again:
        Eric Holder: ‘When they go low, we kick them; Cory Booker to condemn this behavior from liberals. Cory Booker “call to action” “get up in the face of some congresspeople.”; Hillary Clinton “You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about,”; Maxine Waters, Attack trump supporters.

    • How nice. Giantfart deigned to fly back on his elitist private jet to tell more lies and put another hickey on tRump’s rump.

      • So do you want to support someone who is successful or someone who is not? Do they need the job or want the job? Good retirement if you can get it and hold it long enough. Would you rather have a hickey on Schumer and Pelosi? Voting history shows where the hickeys have been placed.

        • You saying you want a hickey? Is that it?

          • Yes, do you know where?

            • I have an idea where you can plant your tulips…..lol

              • Are you 13 years old? Because that seems to be your maturity level.

                • Liz Warren DNA test shows she does indeed have Native American ancestry.

                  There goes another of your talking points Komrade.

                  • tRump promised to personally pay $1 million to the charity of her choice. He’ll welch on that promise just like he stiffed all those small businessmen who had contracts on his building projects and his campaign.

                  • BOSTON GLOBE CORRECTION CASTS DOUBT ON LIZ WARREN’S ANCESTRY CLAIMS

                    The Boston Globe issued a correction Monday after inaccurately calculating the percentage of Native American ancestry in Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s DNA.

                    After years of skepticism about Warren’s claim that she is at least part Cherokee, the Democratic Sen. from Massachusetts recently released the results of a DNA test. The test provided “strong evidence” that Warren has a Native American ancestor dating back six to 10 generations.

                    The Boston Globe originally claimed that this put Warren at somewhere between 1/32 and 1/512 Native American.

                    However, the Globe admitted in a correction that the upper bound of Warren’s Native American ancestry is actually 1/1024. This would make Warren somewhere between .09 and 3 percent Native American.

                    According to a New York Times article cited by the Republican National Committee’s Michael Ahrens, the average European-American has 0.18 percent Native American DNA.

                    In 1996, the Harvard Crimson referred to Warren as a Native American, and in 1997, a Fordham Law Review article described her as Harvard Law’s “first woman of color.”

                    According to previous reporting by The Daily Caller, “Warren later acknowledged that Harvard had singled her out as a Native American professor because she identified herself as a minority in an Association of American Law Schools directory from 1986-1994. She stopped listing herself as such when she gained tenure at Harvard.”

                    Warren also used her “high cheekbones” and an old story about her parents eloping over “issues” relating to her mother’s Cherokee ancestry as proof of her ancestral claims.

                    The Cherokee tribe does not accept DNA tests as proof of ancestry.

                • When conservatives make a snide comment we are immature and when liberals do they are cute. hummmmm

  57. The Billings Gazette has endorsed Jon Tester for Senator of Montana.

  58. The Billings Gazette endorsed Hillary Clinton too!

    • Hillary won the nationwide popular vote. The pollsters were right, you can’t poll the electors of the Electoral College.

      • Yes, Doug, and too bad Hillary lost a couple of billion dollars because she was too stupid and lazy as a career politician to campaign in the electoral states and Trump was smarter and beat her in electoral states typical Democrat and didn’t waste money on California. This augment is getting old.

  59. Did the Cherokee have totem poles?

  60. I had a thing for Cher back in the 70s.

    Thx for that. Ummmm Excuse me.

  61. ROLF, is this the best you can do? Was Jane Fonda busy? How about Elisabeth Warren she is almost native american or Chucky Schumer or he is to lazy.

    Jeff is my political mentor. I always look to him for foreign relations advice.

    Jeff Bridges visiting Bozeman to support Sen. Jon Tester.
    The event is scheduled for Wednesday, Oct. 17 from 1:30-3 PM at Ballroom A in the Strand Union Building. It’s hosted by the Montana State University College Democrats.

  62. So, it’s a tax on tobacco payed for only by users of tobacco? Cool.

    • Oh back on topic are we?

      You’ve probably received tobacco industry funded flyers opposing initiative 185. They claim veterans will only receive 4 percent, (~$2 million/year) of funding from I-185. This is true, but $2 million is eight times the funding that the Legislature appropriated for veterans in 2017. Eight times more!

      Adding this to the continuing 2004-tobacco tax, veteran services funding will increase by over $19 million between 2019 and 2023. Don’t be deceived by the tobacco funded ads, I-185 is good for veterans.

      Another flyer distributed by big tobacco falsely claims that I-185 will create an unfunded mandate regarding Medicaid. This also isn’t true. Montana already funds Medicaid expansion, which benefits over 90,000 Montanans and helps keep rural hospitals in business. It also generates about $35 million/year of increased tax revenue due to the infusion of Medicaid stimulated wages into the economy.

      But most important, I-185 does not create a mandate! Next year the Legislature has to reauthorize Medicaid expansion since it’s due to “sunset.” All I-185 does is remove the sunset provision. That doesn’t make it a mandate. The legislature still has the ability at anytime to terminate Medicaid expansion.

  63. Repeal and replace!

    • Jesus was a Socialist. He gave away health care for free.
      He also advocated for giving people food, shelter and clothing for free.

    • You dipshits have been preaching that one sine the ACA was implemented.

      Guess what? The vast majority of Americans don’t believe you in the least. I wonder why? Could it be because our President has proven himself to be a liar?

      Still waiting for Trump to make good on his promises.

      No one will lose coverage. There will be insurance for everybody. Healthcare will be a “lot less expensive” for everyone — the government, consumers, providers.

      President Donald Trump and his advisers have been talking about an Obamacare repeal and replacement plan, and making blanket statements about what it would entail, for nearly two years. In his recent speech to Congress, Trump cast his presidency as one of promises made and promises kept. And he and his aides have made plenty of promises about healthcare.

      Now there is a plan on the table: the American Health Care Act. The House-produced bill, endorsed by the White House, will repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act. But an analysis of the measure, from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, found that the bill would cause about 24 million people to lose coverage over the next decade — a finding that will test Trump’s health care claims. Notably, the White House has made it clear they reject the analysis.

      Here’s a look at six promises Trump and his advisers have made about replacing Obamacare, and how it compares to the CBO score:

      ‘INSURANCE FOR EVERYBODY’

      Before he was sworn in, President Trump made a bold promise: The as-yet-unreleased Obamacare repeal and replacement plan would have “insurance for everybody.”

      “We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said in an interview with The Washington Post. “There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it. That’s not going to happen with us.”

      While House Republicans and the White House have indicated repealing and replacing Obamacare may take multiple legislative steps, the bill currently on the table would not meet Trump’s pledge. Per the CBO’s score, 14 million people would immediately lose coverage, a number that would eventually rise to 24 million over the next 10 years.

      Of note: The White House disputes these CBO projections. “It’s virtually impossible to have that number occur. Not believable,” Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price said on Monday.
      Politicians react to the CBO report on the GOP’s health care plan

      White House analysis of Obamacare repeal sees even deeper insurance losses than CBO

      ‘NO CUTS … TO MEDICAID’:

      As his run for president took shape, candidate Trump boasted via Twitter, “I was the first & only potential GOP candidate to state there will be no cuts to Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid” — before arguing that GOP also-ran Mike Huckabee was copying him.

      That’s another promise that wasn’t born out by the CBO, which found the House Obamacare repeal measure would cut Medicaid by $880 billion.

      ‘NO ONE WILL LOSE COVERAGE’

      Trump counselor Kellyanne Conway made a promise that almost certainly can’t be met with the House bill: “We don’t want anyone who currently has insurance to not have insurance.”

      In its current form, the CBO says Conway’s promise simply won’t be kept in the House bill. An estimated 24 million people will lose coverage over the next 10 years under the plan.

      ‘NOBODY WILL BE WORSE OFF FINANCIALLY’

      Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price praised the House’s repeal and replace plan on Sunday’s NBC’s “Meet the Press” arguing, “I firmly believe that nobody will be worse off financially in the process that we’re going through.”

      The CBO’s analysis doesn’t evaluate each individual’s financial situation. But its score projects health premiums under GOP health bill would increase by an estimated 15 to 20 percent over the bill’s first two years — before falling thanks to looser regulations and more younger enrollees. Older enrollees, though, could face higher premiums or costs.
      President Donald Trump said Obamacare would implode if the Republicans didn’t intervene.

      ‘GET RID OF ARTIFICIAL LINES’

      Throughout the 2016 campaign, candidate Trump talked about his desire to let people buy health insurance across state lines. The idea being that it will create competition and offer better choices for people when they purchase health insurance.

      “We have to get rid of the artificial lines around the states,” Trump said during the second presidential debate.

      This promise isn’t met — or even addressed — in the House’s bill, a point of complaint for some conservatives. House Speaker Paul Ryan has attributed this to the need to avoid a filibuster while using the fast-track legislative process known as reconciliation. Trump, though, pledged on Twitter he would get to it eventually in a second or third phase of his repeal-and-replace effort.

      ‘EVERYBODY’S GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF’

      Trump has made other, more vague promises about the repeal-and-replace endgame.

      As he campaigned for the White House that he declared in an interview with CBS’ “60 Minutes”: “I am going to take care of everybody … Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.” More recently, Trump has promised that repeal will end with “a beautiful picture.”

      Both of these pledges are harder to quantify — but judging by early reactions to the legislation from liberals, some conservatives and others, it will be difficult to ensure.

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